Compressed gas energy storage formula

In summary, the conversation discusses the formula for finding the energy stored in a compressed gas, specifically for non-ideal gases like argon. It is mentioned that the formula should also take into account the thermal energy caused by compression. The topic of compressed air energy storage is brought up, and the formula for calculating the energy stored is given as "Energy_stored = Energy_in - Energy_lost." However, it is noted that compressors and turbines are not 100% efficient, so a reasonable guess of 60% net efficiency is suggested. It is also mentioned that the length of time the gas remains stored is an important factor. Finally, it is revealed that the person is looking for the amount of energy stored in joules in a press
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Compressed gas energy storage formula
Hi,
I’m looking for formula to find the energy stored in a compressed gas for non ideal gases, for example, argon. The formula should also include the thermal energy caused by compression.

Thank you in advance.
 
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Can't you use conservation of energy? If we compress a gas, energy out equals energy in minus energy leaked to the environment. I'm sure you know that, so what is the premise of your question?
 
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Compressed air energy storage is the topic.
 
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Petersenwill36 said:
Compressed air energy storage is the topic.
OK. In that case you can use this formula $$Energy_{stored} = Energy_{in} - Energy_{lost}$$

But that's probably not much help. Compressors are not 100% efficient when compressing the gas. Turbines are not 100% efficient when re-expanding the gas. But there are no simple formulas for those inefficiencies.

So if there are no simple formulas, the next best thing is to just make a reasonable guess. 60% net efficiency for compression/expansion and conversion to/from electricity. However, if you let the gas sit overnight so that heat leaks to the environment, efficiency might shrink to 20%. Therefore, for how long it remains stored becomes an important parameter.

Are you assigned the task of designing compressed air energy storage?
 
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Thank you for your help. I am looking for the amount of energy in joules stored in a pressurized gas. For example, the amount of energy required to compress argon to 1000 psi in a 2L vessel.
 

What is compressed gas energy storage?

Compressed gas energy storage is a method of storing energy by compressing gas, typically air, into a container or underground cavern. The compressed air can then be released to power a turbine and generate electricity when needed.

How does compressed gas energy storage work?

Compressed gas energy storage works by using excess electricity from the grid to compress air into a storage container or cavern. When electricity is needed, the compressed air is released and expands to power a turbine, which then generates electricity.

What is the formula for calculating the energy stored in compressed gas?

The formula for calculating the energy stored in compressed gas is E = PV, where E is the energy stored in joules, P is the pressure of the compressed gas in Pascals, and V is the volume of the compressed gas in cubic meters.

What are the advantages of compressed gas energy storage?

Compressed gas energy storage has several advantages, including its ability to store large amounts of energy for long periods of time, its low cost compared to other energy storage methods, and its use of readily available and non-toxic materials.

What are the limitations of compressed gas energy storage?

One limitation of compressed gas energy storage is the energy lost during the compression and expansion process, which can reduce the overall efficiency. Another limitation is the need for suitable geological formations or large storage containers, which may not be available in all locations.

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