Compute the conditional probability

In summary: How many different ways can you get at least 2 red chips?In summary, the conversation discusses conditional probability in two different scenarios involving drawing chips and cards without replacement. In the first scenario, the conditional probability of drawing 2 red chips and 1 blue chip is calculated given that at least 1 red chip is selected. In the second scenario, the conditional probability of drawing at least 3 aces is calculated given that there are at least 2 aces in the hand. The conversation also mentions the use of the definition of conditional probability and the need to understand outcomes and events in order to grasp probability concepts.
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Homework Statement


A bowl contains 10 chips: 6 red chips and 4 blue chips. three chips are drawn at random and without replacement. Compute the conditional probability that

a) 2 are red and one is blue; given that at least 1 red chip is among the 3 selected
b) all are red, given that at least 2 red chips are in the sample of 3 chips.


Homework Equations



a)
A= red B= blue

The Attempt at a Solution



P(AlB)= 6/10 * 5/9 * 4/8 = 0.16= 16%.

= P(AlB)= P( A[itex]\bigcap[/itex]B) / P(B)

I don't know how to do it when considering the bold. What changes ? At least one red chip and at least 2 red chips? Or can I just ignore that? I did consider all 6 red chips, so I don't know why they say "given that at least 2 red chips in the sample of 3". Of course it's more than 2, because the bowl has 6 red chips.

Homework Statement



5 cards are to be drawn successively at random and without replacement from an ordinary deck of 52 playing cards. Find the conditional probability that there are at least 3 aces in the hand, given that there are at least 2 aces.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I don't get this. The probability to get 3 when there are only 2 in the deck of playing cards?
 
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In this kind of problem, you want to set A to the part before the "given", so A in this case is "2 red, 1 blue". You set B to the "given" part: B = "at least one red".

Now you want to use the definition of conditional probability[tex]P(A\vert B)=\frac{P(A\cap B)}{P(B)}[/tex][itex]P(A\cap B)[/itex] is the probability that both A and B happen. In this problem, every outcome in A is in B as well: If you chose 2 red chips, then you've chosen at least one red chip. So you have [itex]A \subset B[/itex]. This means that [itex]A \cap B = A[/itex]. So now you have[tex]P(A\vert B)=\frac{P(A)}{P(B)}[/tex]The probabilities P(A) and P(B) are the normal ones, not the conditional ones, you've learned to calculate in the past. So just figure those out and plug them in.

Now in the second problem, can you tell us what A and B should be?
 
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vela said:
In this kind of problem, you want to set A to the part before the "given", so A in this case is "2 red, 1 blue". You set B to the "given" part: B = "at least one red".

Now you want to use the definition of conditional probability[tex]P(A\vert B)=\frac{P(A\cap B)}{P(B)}[/tex][itex]P(A\cap B)[/itex] is the probability that both A and B happen. In this problem, every outcome in A is in B as well: If you chose 2 red chips, then you've chosen at least one red chip. So you have [itex]A \subset B[/itex]. This means that [itex]A \cap B = A[/itex]. So now you have[tex]P(A\vert B)=\frac{P(A)}{P(B)}[/tex]The probabilities P(A) and P(B) are the normal ones, not the conditional ones, you've learned to calculate in the past. So just figure those out and plug them in.

Now in the second problem, can you tell us what A and B should be?

Don't understand it. Sorry.
 
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Given you responded so quickly, I can't imagine you put much effort into understanding what I wrote. :frown:

I suggest you go back to the material from the very beginning of the course and review the concepts of outcomes and events. You really need to understand those ideas to get a good grasp of probability.
 
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vela said:
Given you responded so quickly, I can't imagine you put much effort into understanding what I wrote. :frown:

I suggest you go back to the material from the very beginning of the course and review the concepts of outcomes and events. You really need to understand those ideas to get a good grasp of probability.
Well, you tried. Just need to explain things better.
 
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XodoX said:
Well, you tried. Just need to explain things better.

No, you need put in more effort. Do you have a textbook, and have you read it? Do have course notes and have you consulted them? Have you searched on-line for related concepts?

RGV
 
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Ray Vickson said:
No, you need put in more effort. Do you have a textbook, and have you read it? Do have course notes and have you consulted them? Have you searched on-line for related concepts?

RGV


I can get the same from a textbook. That's no help.
 
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You have to do some "counting" calculations. How many different ways can you get 2 red chips and 1 blue? How many different ways can you get at least 1 red chip?
 

Related to Compute the conditional probability

What is conditional probability?

Conditional probability is the likelihood of an event occurring given that another event has already occurred. It is denoted as P(A|B), where A is the event of interest and B is the event that has already occurred.

How do you calculate conditional probability?

The formula for conditional probability is P(A|B) = P(A∩B) / P(B), where P(A∩B) is the probability of both events A and B occurring together, and P(B) is the probability of event B occurring.

What is the relationship between conditional probability and independent events?

If two events A and B are independent, then the conditional probability P(A|B) is equal to the probability of A, P(A). In other words, the occurrence of event B does not affect the probability of event A.

Can conditional probability be used to predict future events?

Yes, conditional probability can be used to make predictions about future events, as long as the events are related and the necessary data is available.

What are some real-life applications of conditional probability?

Conditional probability is commonly used in fields such as statistics, economics, and machine learning to make predictions and decisions based on existing data. It is also used in medical research to determine the likelihood of a disease based on certain risk factors.

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