Conservation of Energy in a Pulley System

In summary, the problem involves two masses connected by a light string over a frictionless pulley. The goal is to determine the speed of the smaller mass just as the larger mass hits the ground. To solve this, the conservation of energy principle is used, considering the changes in potential and kinetic energy of both masses. The final equation used is sqrt(2*(m1gh-m2gh)/(m1+m2))=v.
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Homework Statement


Two masses are connected by a light string passing over a light, frictionless pulley, as shown in the figure below. The mass m1 (which is greater than m2) is released from rest. Use the isolated system model to answer the following.
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In terms of m1, m2, and h, determine the speed of m2 just as m1 hits the ground (Use m_1 for m1, m_2 for m2, g, and h as appropriate.)

Homework Equations


Ug=mgh
KE=.5mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Since energy is conserved, I figured that the potential energy of m1 would equal the kinetic energy of m2.
I used the equation:
Ug=KE
m_1*g*h=.5*m_2*v^2
sqrt((2*m_1*g*h)/m_2)=v
This answer is incorrect so I was thinking that perhaps that m2 would raise to the same height h as m2 dropped and that m2 would have some kinetic and some potential energy.
I used this equation:
Ug=Ug+KE
m_1*g*h=m_2*g*h+.5*m_2*v^2
sqrt((2*m_1*g*h-2*m_2*g*h)/m_2)=v
This answer was also incorrect so I'm not sure where to go from here.
 
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You were correct to take into account the changes in potential energy of both masses. But the kinetic energies of both masses also change.

Chet
 
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ohhh so the energy at the beginning would be just potential energy and at the end it would be the potential energy of m2 plus the kinetic of m1 and of m2
Ug=Ug+KE+KE
m_1*g*h=m_2*g*h+.5*m_2*v^2+.5*m_1*v^2
sqrt(2*(m_1*g*h-m_2*g*h)/(m_2+m_1)=v
 
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What is conservation of energy in a pulley system?

The conservation of energy in a pulley system refers to the principle that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or transformed. In a pulley system, the amount of energy put into the system must equal the amount of energy output.

How does a pulley system conserve energy?

A pulley system conserves energy by using the mechanical advantage of the pulleys to distribute the force needed to lift an object. This means that the input force is spread out over a larger distance, resulting in less force needed to lift the object, thus conserving energy.

What is the equation for calculating the mechanical advantage in a pulley system?

The equation for calculating the mechanical advantage in a pulley system is MA = (output force)/(input force). This means that the mechanical advantage is equal to the output force divided by the input force. The higher the mechanical advantage, the more efficiently the pulley system is able to lift an object.

Can a pulley system violate the law of conservation of energy?

No, a pulley system cannot violate the law of conservation of energy. The law states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or transformed. A pulley system simply transfers energy from one point to another, without creating or destroying it.

What are some real-world applications of conservation of energy in pulley systems?

Pulley systems are used in many real-world applications, such as elevators, cranes, and exercise machines. By conserving energy, these systems are able to efficiently lift heavy objects or provide resistance for workouts.

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