Conservation of energy problem: Two masses, a pulley and an incline

In summary, the problem involves two material points of masses M and m connected by a wire passing through a fixed pulley. The larger mass M rests on a smooth inclined plane at an alpha angle with the vertical, while the smaller mass m hangs vertically. The problem asks to demonstrate that the point M performs amplitude oscillations with a specific equation, where h is the distance between the starting point of M and the pulley, and fulfilling the condition that M is less than m. The oscillatory motion is due to the equilibrium position of the system, not the rotation of the bottom plane.
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Homework Statement
Two material points of masses M and m are joined together by means of a wire that passes in A through a fixed pulley. The mass m hangs vertically; the largest M rests on a smooth inclined plane that forms an [itex]\alpha[/itex] angle with the vertical. M starts its movement, sliding along the plane, without initial speed, starting from point B0 located on the vertical of A. Demonstrate that point M performs amplitude oscillations [itex] x = \overline {B_oB} = \frac {2m (M-m) h \cos \alpha} {m ^ 2-M ^ 2\cos ^ 2 \alpha} [/itex] where [itex]h = \overline {B_oA} [/itex] and fulfilling the condition [itex] M \cos \alpha < m < M [/itex]
Relevant Equations
Gravitational energy: [itex]mgh[/itex]
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If M moves ##x## along the plane, her height variation in ##x \cos(\alpha)##, and, but I don't know how to find the variation of the height of ##m##
 
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Tassandro said:
Homework Statement:: Two material points of masses M and m are joined together by means of a wire that passes in A through a fixed pulley. The mass m hangs vertically; the largest M rests on a smooth inclined plane that forms an alpha angle with the vertical. M starts its movement, sliding along the plane, without initial speed, starting from point B0 located on the vertical of A. Demonstrate that point M performs amplitude oscillations [itex] x = \overline {B_oB} = \frac {2m (M-m) h \cos \alpha} {m ^ 2-M ^ 2\cos ^ 2 \alpha} [/itex] where [itex] h = \overline {B_oA} [/itex] and fulfilling the condition [itex] M \cos \alpha < m < M [/itex]
Relevant Equations:: Gravitational energy: [itex]mgh[/itex]

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If M moves \(\displaystyle x\) along the plane, her height varation in \(\displaystyle x\cosα[\MATH], and, but I dont't know how to find the variation of the height of \(\displaystyle m\) :/\)
Hello @Tassandro .
:welcome:

Consider the change in the length of wire from the mass, M to the pulley, when x = 0, compared to its length for an arbitrary value of x.
 
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Tassandro said:
Homework Statement:: Two material points of masses M and m are joined together by means of a wire that passes in A through a fixed pulley. The mass m hangs vertically; the largest M rests on a smooth inclined plane that forms an alpha angle with the vertical. M starts its movement, sliding along the plane, without initial speed, starting from point B0 located on the vertical of A. Demonstrate that point M performs amplitude oscillations [itex] x = \overline {B_oB} = \frac {2m (M-m) h \cos \alpha} {m ^ 2-M ^ 2\cos ^ 2 \alpha} [/itex] where [itex] h = \overline {B_oA} [/itex] and fulfilling the condition [itex] M \cos \alpha < m < M [/itex]
Relevant Equations:: Gravitational energy: [itex]mgh[/itex]

View attachment 265869View attachment 265869
If M moves \(\displaystyle x\) along the plane, her height varation in \(\displaystyle x\cosα[\MATH], and, but I dont't know how to find the variation of the height of \(\displaystyle m\) :/\)
Is that bottom plane free to rotate about point ##B_0## like a see-saw? Is that why you can get an oscillatory motion?
 
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berkeman said:
Is that bottom plane free to rotate about point ##B_0## like a see-saw? Is that why you can get an oscillatory motion?
No, it's because there is an equilibrium position
given by ##Mg\cos(\alpha)=mg\cos(\alpha-\beta)##
, where beta is the angle of the string to the vertical.
 
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1. What is the conservation of energy problem involving two masses, a pulley, and an incline?

The conservation of energy problem involving two masses, a pulley, and an incline is a physics problem that involves calculating the energy changes and transfers between two masses connected by a rope passing over a pulley and moving on an inclined surface. The problem assumes that there is no friction present in the system, and all the energy is conserved.

2. How do you set up the conservation of energy problem for this scenario?

To set up the conservation of energy problem for this scenario, you would first draw a diagram of the system, including the two masses, the pulley, and the incline. Next, you would label all the forces acting on the masses, such as the weight and tension. Then, you would write out the conservation of energy equation, which states that the initial energy of the system is equal to the final energy of the system.

3. What are the types of energy involved in this conservation of energy problem?

The types of energy involved in this conservation of energy problem are gravitational potential energy, kinetic energy, and elastic potential energy. Gravitational potential energy is the energy an object possesses due to its position in a gravitational field, while kinetic energy is the energy of motion. Elastic potential energy is the energy stored in a stretched or compressed object, such as the rope in this scenario.

4. How do you solve for the final velocity of the masses in this conservation of energy problem?

To solve for the final velocity of the masses in this conservation of energy problem, you would first calculate the initial and final energies of the system using the conservation of energy equation. Then, you would equate the two energies and solve for the final velocity using algebraic manipulation. Alternatively, you could also use the equations for kinetic and potential energy to solve for the final velocity.

5. What are some assumptions made in this conservation of energy problem?

Some assumptions made in this conservation of energy problem are that there is no friction present in the system, and all the energy is conserved. This means that the masses and the pulley are assumed to be frictionless, and there is no loss of energy due to heat or other factors. Additionally, the masses are assumed to be point masses, and the rope is assumed to be massless and inextensible.

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