De Sitter Universe: Divergent Parallel Lines?

In summary, the conversation discusses the properties of a hyperboloid embedded in a 3-D Minkowski space with a negative metric. The hyperboloid has positive Gaussian curvature equal to 1, and is representing a 2-dimensional De Sitter Universe submanifold. However, unlike surfaces with constant positive curvature, there exist parallel geodesic lines (hyperbolas) on this hyperboloid that diverge instead of converging. This is due to the negative metric of the embedding space. The conversation also mentions that these hyperbolas are timelike, and the intuition of converging parallel lines only applies to manifolds with a positive definite metric.
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The hyperboloid with equation: ## z^2=x^2+y^2-1 ##, embedded in standard 3-D Minkowski space ( +, +, - ) so that ## z^2 ## is negative, has positive Gaussian curvature equal to 1 ( as found directly from its metric: ## ds^2 = \sqrt{ -dτ^2+(Coshτ)^2 dθ^2 } ## induced from the ambient Minkowski metric ) and is representing a 2-dimensional De Sitter Universe submanifold.

Nevertheless, there exist parallel geodesic lines ( the hyperbolas on the surface perpendicular to the circle ## x^2+y^2=1 ## ) which diverge instead of converging as intuition has it, for surfaces of constant positive curvature.

Is this a characteristic of the signature of the embedding space to have such divergent parallels, contrary to the all convergent parallels of a constant positive Gaussian curvature surface embedded in a ( +, +, .., + ) space, say?
 
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dagmar said:
there exist parallel geodesic lines ( the hyperbolas on the surface perpendicular to the circle ##x^2+y^2=1## ) which diverge instead of converging as intuition has it, for surfaces of constant positive curvature.

These hyperbolas are timelike, correct? The intuition you refer to is only valid in a manifold with a positive definite metric, or for spacelike geodesics in a manifold with Lorentzian metric.
 
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PeterDonis said:
These hyperbolas are timelike, correct? The intuition you refer to is only valid in a manifold with a positive definite metric, or for spacelike geodesics in a manifold with Lorentzian metric.
So this settles my question. Yes, they are time-like.
I take your word Peter, that if the Gaussian curvature is positive and everywhere constant in a manifold with a positive definite metric then parallel geodesic lines always converge.
In my case the metric is negative, so this is not the case. And indeed, like you said spacelike geodesics converge in my manifold example. They are just the ellipse-like lines generated when the hyperboloid is cut by planes passing through the origin (0,0,0) at an angle less than 45 degrees.
Thank you.
 
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dagmar said:
if the Gaussian curvature is positive and everywhere constant in a manifold with a positive definite metric then parallel geodesic lines always converge.

Yes, AFAIK that's correct.
 

1. What is the De Sitter Universe?

The De Sitter Universe is a mathematical model of the universe that describes a spacetime with a constant positive curvature. It is named after Dutch mathematician Willem de Sitter, who first proposed this model in 1917.

2. What are divergent parallel lines in the De Sitter Universe?

In the De Sitter Universe, divergent parallel lines refer to a phenomenon where two lines that are initially parallel will eventually diverge from each other due to the positive curvature of spacetime. This is in contrast to the concept of parallel lines in Euclidean geometry, where parallel lines never intersect.

3. How is the De Sitter Universe different from the Einstein Universe?

The De Sitter Universe and the Einstein Universe are both models of the universe proposed by Willem de Sitter and Albert Einstein, respectively. The main difference between the two is that the De Sitter Universe has a positive cosmological constant, while the Einstein Universe does not. This results in a different curvature of spacetime and different predictions for the expansion of the universe.

4. What is the significance of the De Sitter Universe in modern cosmology?

The De Sitter Universe plays an important role in modern cosmology as it is one of the possible solutions to Einstein's field equations that describe the universe. It has also been used in various cosmological models, such as the inflationary model, to explain the early expansion of the universe and the observed acceleration of the expansion of the universe.

5. Are there any observations or evidence that support the existence of the De Sitter Universe?

There is currently no direct observational evidence for the existence of the De Sitter Universe. However, its predictions have been confirmed by various cosmological observations, such as the cosmic microwave background radiation and the observed acceleration of the expansion of the universe. Additionally, the De Sitter Universe is a key component in many cosmological models that are supported by observational data.

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