Diff between aether & EM field

In summary, the main difference between the concepts of aether and the EM field is that while the EM field is a description of forces, the aether would be a physical entity that supports these forces, similar to how solid, liquid, and gaseous materials support sound. However, advancements in physics have rendered the need for the aether obsolete. Some still adhere to the aether concept, but it is not supported by Maxwell's equations and the Michelson-Morley experiment. The structure of space-time, which is still a mystery, is what gives rise to the EM field.
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What's the main difference between the concepts of aether and that of the EM field? They both seem, to my unpracticed eye, to be everywhere and the medium that allows light.
 
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Aether corresponds to the electromagnetic field, and light is an excitation of this field.
 
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The difference is that the Aether would be a physical entity capable of supporting EM waves in a similar way to how solid, liquid, and gaseous material supports sound.

Various advancements in physics (both experimental and theoretical) have rendered the need for the Aether obsolete at best and impossible at worst.

In fringe physics and in some classified government circles there are adherents to the Aether concept. In the end, a Maxwellian Aether surely does not exist though there are reasons why it continues to make sense to some.
 
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The difference is that the Aether would be a physical entity capable of supporting EM waves in a similar way to how solid, liquid, and gaseous material supports sound.

So the difference is that the EM field IS waves but aether would SUPPORT waves?
 
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Yes, sort of. The EM field is a description of forces on a test charge measured over here when you have another charge doing something over there. The description resembles waves but it's not at all like sound which really is a wave moving through a medium.

That means it's all about what "over here" and "over there" really means and not so much about wave motion.

The structure of space-time is what gives rise to the form of Maxwell's equations. Not the elastic properties of an etherial wave medium which would have to be extremely stiff, extremely light, and extremely undetectable as the MM experiment showed 100+ years ago.

Space-time is a bit mysterious. We don't really know what it's made of. The math says it isn't made of anything. The philosophy says something isn't made of nothing. The empty space between here and Mars has some attributes but it isn't clear whether that fact promotes space-time to the level of physical entity.
 

Related to Diff between aether & EM field

What is the difference between aether and EM field?

The aether was a hypothetical substance believed to fill the space between objects and serve as a medium for the propagation of electromagnetic waves. However, this concept has been disproven by scientific experiments and the development of the theory of relativity. The electromagnetic (EM) field, on the other hand, refers to the physical field that is created by the presence of electrically charged particles and is responsible for the interaction between these particles.

Why was the concept of aether rejected?

The concept of aether was rejected because it failed to explain certain phenomena, such as the lack of an observed "aether wind" and the constant speed of light observed in different frames of reference. Additionally, the theory of relativity provided a more comprehensive explanation for the behavior of electromagnetic waves.

Is the EM field a physical entity?

Yes, the EM field is a physical entity that can be observed and measured. It is responsible for the interaction between electrically charged particles and plays a crucial role in many natural phenomena, such as light, electricity, and magnetism.

How is the EM field related to electricity and magnetism?

The EM field is intimately related to electricity and magnetism. In fact, these two phenomena are two different manifestations of the same underlying EM field. Electric fields are created by the presence of electric charges, while magnetic fields are created by the movement of these charges. The interaction between electric and magnetic fields gives rise to electromagnetic waves.

Can the EM field be manipulated?

Yes, the EM field can be manipulated through the use of various tools and devices, such as magnets, wires, and electronic circuits. This manipulation of the EM field is the basis for many modern technologies, including electricity, radio, and wireless communication.

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