Does space have its own density?

In summary, the conversation discusses whether space has its own density and if it is separate from the density of particles within it. It also explores the possibility of a uniform density of vast particles and the potential effects on observable masses. One answer suggests that the mass density of vacuum is approximately 6.5*10-27 kg/m3. The conversation also mentions the concept of dark matter and how it is only detectable through its gravitational interaction with ordinary matter. However, personal speculations are not allowed on the forum.
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David Dodson
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Does space have its own density?
i.e. a mass density distinct from the mass density of 'particles' in it?
or may it have a uniform density of some kind of vast particle(s)?
If so, would the effect on observable masses largely cancel out?

One answer from https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=22498 :
"Q: Mass of vacuum? - Varun (age 15) India
A: So far as we can tell from the accelerating expansion of the universe, the mass density of the vacuum is about 6.5*10-27 kg/m3. If, however, some other effect is causing that acceleration, then we don't know the answer. Mike W. (published on 05/03/2013)"

Or could the density of space be somehow concentrated in the cosmic
vicinity of 'ordinary' matter and thus be a large part of 'dark matter'?
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter (as last edited 2018/3/10):
"At present, we can only detect and study dark matter because it interacts gravitationally with "ordinary" matter. … Many different kinds of evidence agree on the extent of dark matter in the observable universe. … The primary evidence for dark matter is that calculations show that many galaxies would fly apart instead of rotating, or would not move as they do, if they did not contain a large amount of matter beyond that which we can see."

Could particles comparable in size to galaxies be involved? Or just one universal particle?
I thank Alex Dodson for proposing that space has a density of its own.
David Dodson, 2018/311
 
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Hi @David Dodson and welcome to PF!

David Dodson said:
Does space have its own density?

No. The reference you give is a bit misleading; the value it gives is what you get if you take our best current value for the cosmological constant and convert it to a mass density. But the cosmological constant is not "mass". It's a different kind of thing, and it can't really be described as a "density of space".

For the rest of your post, please review the PF rules, particularly the ones regarding personal speculations.

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/physics-forums-global-guidelines.414380/
 

1. What is density and how is it measured?

Density is a measure of the amount of mass in a given volume. It is calculated by dividing an object's mass by its volume. In space, density is usually measured in kilograms per cubic meter.

2. Does space have a uniform density?

No, the density of space varies depending on where you are in the universe. For example, the density of matter is higher in areas with more galaxies and lower in areas with fewer galaxies.

3. How does the density of space affect objects in it?

The density of space can affect the movement of objects through it. For example, a spacecraft would experience less resistance in an area with lower density of matter compared to an area with higher density. Additionally, the density of space can also affect the behavior of light and other electromagnetic radiation.

4. Can the density of space change?

Yes, the density of space can change over time. For example, during the early stages of the universe, the density was much higher due to the concentration of matter in a smaller space. As the universe expanded, the density decreased.

5. How does the density of space affect the formation of galaxies and other celestial bodies?

The density of space plays a crucial role in the formation of galaxies and other celestial bodies. The higher the density, the more likely it is for matter to clump together and form structures like galaxies. In areas with lower density, the gravitational pull is weaker, making it more difficult for objects to form.

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