Find the Derivative/Simplification of 2 Rational Expressions

In summary, WolframAlpha was unable to solve the derivative equation y = [(2x - 5)^4][(8x^2 - 5)^-3] for me. However, I was able to solve it using WolframAlpha's "derivative" function by factoring out certain terms and using the LCD (least common denominator) of (2x - 5)^3.
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Homework Statement


Find the derivative of:
y = [(2x - 5)^4][(8x^2 - 5)^-3]


Homework Equations


I get:
y' = -[(48x(2x - 5)^4) / (8x^2 - 5)^4] + [(8(2x - 5)^3) / (8x^2 - 5)^3]

Wolfram gets:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=derivative+(2x+-+5)^4(8x^2+-+5)^-3


The Attempt at a Solution


I do everything Wolfram does here:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=derivative+(2x+-+5)^4(8x^2+-+5)^-3
I just don't know how it simplifies what you see at the bottom (of the "Show Steps" section that is) to get the solution you see at the top.
 
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communitycoll said:
I do everything Wolfram does here:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=derivative+(2x+-+5)^4(8x^2+-+5)^-3
I just don't know how it simplifies what you see at the bottom (of the "Show Steps" section that is) to get the solution you see at the top.
You should have learned how to add/subtract rational expressions in algebra. Just like in numerical fractions, you can only add/subtract if the denominators are the same. If they are not, you need to find the LCD (least common denominator) first. What is the LCD in this case?
 
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communitycoll said:

Homework Statement


Find the derivative of:
y = [(2x - 5)^4][(8x^2 - 5)^-3]

Homework Equations


I get:
y' = -[(48x(2x - 5)^4) / (8x^2 - 5)^4] + [(8(2x - 5)^3) / (8x^2 - 5)^3]
So
[tex]y'= -\frac{48x(2x- 5)^4}{(8x^2- 5)^4}+ \frac{8(2x- 5)^3}{8x^2- 5)^3}[/tex]

Wolfram gets:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=derivative+(2x+-+5)^4(8x^2+-+5)^-3

The Attempt at a Solution


I do everything Wolfram does here:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=derivative+(2x+-+5)^4(8x^2+-+5)^-3
I just don't know how it simplifies what you see at the bottom (of the "Show Steps" section that is) to get the solution you see at the top.
You have two fractions, one with denominator [itex](8x^2- 5)^4[/itex], the other with denominator [itex](8x^2- 5)^3[/itex]. You can first simplify the calculation by factoring [itex](2x- 5)^3[/itex] out of the numerators and [itex](8x^2- 5)^3[/itex] out of the denominators:
[tex]\frac{(2x-5)^3}{(8x^2-5)^3}\left(\frac{-48x(2x-5)}{8x^2-5}+ 4\right)[/tex]
Now, get a common denominator by multiplying that "4" by [itex](8x^2-5)/(8x^2- 5)[/itex].
[tex]\frac{(2x-5)^3}{(8x^2- 5)^3}\left(\frac{-48(x(2x-5)}{8x^2- 5}+ \frac{4(8x^2- 5}{8x^2- 5}\right)[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{(2x-5)^3}{(8x^2- 5)^3}\left(\frac{-96x^2+ 240+ 32x^2- 20}{8x^2- 5}\right)[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{(2x-5)^3}{(8x^2- 5)^3}\left(\frac{220- 64x^2}{8x^2- 5}\right)[/tex]
 
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Okay then. I understand. Thank you both.
 

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What is a rational expression?

A rational expression is a fraction where both the numerator and denominator are polynomials. These expressions often arise in algebraic equations involving variables.

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