Flux through top part of sphere

In summary: It is a good exercise and instructive to consider why both the curl and divergence theorem work for arguing that only the boundary curve of the surface is relevant for the result if the field is divergence free.
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Homework Statement
What is the flux of ##\vec F=(xz, -yz, y^2)## through the surface given by ##x^2+y^2+z^2=2,\ z>1##?
Relevant Equations
Flux=##\iint \vec F\cdot \hat n dA##
Flux=$$\iint(xz, -yz, y^2)\cdot(x,y,z)/\sqrt{2} dA=\int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^1 r^2\cos^2\theta \sqrt{1-r^2/2} rdrd\theta$$. Integrating this doesn't give the correct answer of ##\pi/4##.
 
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Your inner integral should not be with respect to r. You are integrating over a surface not a volume. Change your inner integration to ##\int_0^{\pi/2}...d\phi##, where ##\phi## is the angle between the point's location vector and the x-y plane (the "elevation").
 
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*cough* *cough* curl *cough* theorem *cough*

Edit: Divergence theorem also works ...
 
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intkfmr said:
Homework Statement:: What is the flux of ##\vec F=(xz, -yz, y^2)## through the surface given by ##x^2+y^2+z^2=2,\ z>1##?
Relevant Equations:: Flux=##\iint \vec F\cdot \hat n dA##

Flux=$$\iint(xz, -yz, y^2)\cdot(x,y,z)/\sqrt{2} dA=\int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^1 r^2\cos^2\theta \sqrt{1-r^2/2} rdrd\theta$$. Integrating this doesn't give the correct answer of ##\pi/4##.
Where did the factor ##\sqrt{1-r^2/2}## in the last integral come from? I didn't get that when working out the integral.
 
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The simplest approach I found is to compute the divergence, which turns out to be zero, and thereby the integral of the divergence is zero, so that it allows you to alternatively use the circular face at ## z=1 ## as a surface of integration.
 
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Charles Link said:
The simplest approach I found is to compute the divergence, which turns out to be zero, and thereby the integral of the divergence is zero, so that it allows you to alternatively use the circular face at ## z=1 ## as a surface of integration.
Well … I tried to say it in not such an explicit form …
Orodruin said:
*cough* *cough* curl *cough* theorem *cough*

Edit: Divergence theorem also works ...
Edit: It is a good exercise and instructive to consider why both the curl and divergence theorem works for arguing that only the boundary curve of the surface is relevant for the result if the field is divergence free.
 
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I also have now worked the calculation with the surface being the cap of the sphere, using spherical coordinates. The OP needs to put in the correct ## dA=r^2 \sin{\theta} \, d \theta \, d \phi ##. Doing it with the spherical coordinates is fairly straightforward, but making use of the divergence theorem (Gauss' law) is easier.
 

What is flux through the top part of a sphere?

The flux through the top part of a sphere is the measure of the flow of a vector field through the surface of the top half of a sphere. It is a measure of the amount of a vector field that passes through the top half of a sphere per unit time.

How is flux through the top part of a sphere calculated?

The flux through the top part of a sphere is calculated by taking the dot product of the vector field with the unit normal vector at each point on the surface of the top half of the sphere, and then integrating this product over the surface.

What is the significance of flux through the top part of a sphere in physics?

The flux through the top part of a sphere is an important concept in physics, particularly in the study of electromagnetism. It is used to calculate the amount of electric and magnetic fields passing through a given surface, and has applications in fields such as electrical engineering and astrophysics.

Can the flux through the top part of a sphere be negative?

Yes, the flux through the top part of a sphere can be negative. This occurs when the vector field is directed in the opposite direction of the normal vector at each point on the surface, resulting in a negative dot product. Negative flux can also occur when the surface is oriented in the opposite direction of the vector field.

How does the radius of the sphere affect the flux through the top part of the sphere?

The radius of the sphere does not affect the flux through the top part of the sphere, as long as the surface area remains the same. This is because the flux is calculated by taking the dot product of the vector field with the normal vector at each point on the surface, and the radius does not affect these vectors. However, if the surface area of the sphere changes, then the flux will also change.

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