Group velocity of a wavepacket vs its mean phase velocity

In summary, the mean velocity of a wavepacket can be expressed in two ways: the time derivative of the mean position, or the averaged velocity of all plane wave components. These two formulations are equivalent when there is no dispersion, but the speed of energy flow is related to group velocity. The mean phase velocity tells us how fast the phase and peaks are advancing, which is important for refraction.
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The mean velocity of a wavepacket given by the general wavefunction:
[itex]\Psi(x,t)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi}}\int dk A(k)e^{i(k x - \omega(k) t)}[/itex],
can be expressed in two ways.

First, we have that it's the time derivative of the mean position (i.e., its mean group velocity):
[itex]\frac{d \langle x\rangle}{dt}=\int dk |A(k)|^{2} \frac{d\omega(k)}{d k}\approx \frac{d\omega}{dk}[/itex] at center frequency.

Second, we have that it is the averaged velocity of all the plane wave components of the wavepacket (i.e., the mean phase velocity):
[itex]\langle \frac{\omega(k)}{k}\rangle=\int dk |A(k)|^{2} \frac{\omega(k)}{k}.[/itex]

My questions are these:
When are these two formulations of "the mean velocity" equivalent?
Which (if either) best corresponds to the speed of information transfer, or energy flow?
Thanks for reading.
 
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jfizzix said:
When are these two formulations of "the mean velocity" equivalent?
They have the same speed if you do not have dispersion, which means ##\frac{d\omega}{dk}## is constant (then ##\frac{d\omega}{dk}=\frac{\omega}{k}##).
There might be some exotic special case where the phase velocity matches group velocity even with some dispersion in some frequency range, not sure.
jfizzix said:
Which (if either) best corresponds to the speed of information transfer, or energy flow?
Energy flow is related to group velocity. The speed of information transfer is more complicated (front velocity), but for usual data transmission group velocity matters.
 
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So what does the mean phase velocity tell us, exactly? If each plane-wave component is moving at a given phase velocity, and we average those over all plane wave components, what does that number tell us?
 
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It tells you how fast the phase and therefore peaks are advancing, which is important for refraction, for example. If you get significant dispersion within your wave packet, then you cannot average over the phase velocities any more and you have to consider the different frequencies separately.
 

1. What is the difference between group velocity and mean phase velocity?

The group velocity of a wavepacket refers to the speed at which the envelope of the wavepacket travels, while the mean phase velocity refers to the average speed of the individual waves within the packet. In other words, the group velocity describes the movement of the wave as a whole, while the mean phase velocity describes the movement of the individual components of the wavepacket.

2. How are group velocity and mean phase velocity related?

Group velocity and mean phase velocity are related by the dispersion relation, which is a mathematical equation that describes the relationship between a wave's frequency and its wavelength. In many cases, the group velocity and mean phase velocity will be the same, but in some cases, they may differ.

3. What factors can affect the group velocity and mean phase velocity of a wavepacket?

The group velocity and mean phase velocity of a wavepacket can be affected by several factors, including the medium through which the wave is traveling, the shape of the wavepacket, and any external forces acting on the wave.

4. How can the group velocity and mean phase velocity be measured?

The group velocity and mean phase velocity can be measured using various experimental techniques, such as interferometry or spectroscopy. These techniques involve analyzing the properties of the wavepacket, such as its frequency and wavelength, to determine its group and mean phase velocities.

5. Why is the concept of group velocity important in the study of waves?

The concept of group velocity is important because it helps us understand how wavepackets behave in different mediums and under different conditions. It also plays a crucial role in various practical applications, such as telecommunications and signal processing, where the manipulation of group velocity can be used to control the transmission and reception of signals.

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