Gusset Plate Problem: Solving the Force on MN

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In summary, the discussion concluded that the force on MN is 100lbs due to P2, with the components of P1 and P3 balancing each other out and the other components adding up to approximately 200lbs in the opposite direction of P2. The incorrect solution originally overlooked these other components.
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Determine the force transmitted by the gusset late mnpqr to the member MN of the joint shown in the figure if the forces acting along the straight lines OA, OB, OC are $$P_{1}=P_{3}=141 lbs$$ and $$P_{2}= 100 lbs$$. The directions of these forces are shown in the figure.
Relevant Equations
$$F_{x}= \left \| \vec{F} \right \|cos\phi$$
$$F_{y}= \left \| \vec{F} \right \|sin\phi$$
Here is the image of the problem.
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I arrived at the solution that the force on MN is in fact 100lbs due to P2 because the components P1 and P3 acting along MN are equal in magnitude but opposite in direction. What I don't understand is why the force is acting in the direction OPPOSITE to $$\vec{P_{2}}$$. That doesn't make sense to me.
 
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You did not solve the problem correctly. You noted that the components of P1 and P3 cancel out when looking at the forces on the member along its length axis. correct. But what about the other components?
 
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PhanthomJay said:
You did not solve the problem correctly. You noted that the components of P1 and P3 cancel out when looking at the forces on the member along its length axis. correct. But what about the other components?
I see now. The other components of P1 and P3 add up to approximately 200lbs which opposes the force of P2 directly.
 

1. What is a gusset plate problem?

A gusset plate problem is a structural engineering problem that involves determining the forces acting on a gusset plate, which is a triangular plate used to connect beams or trusses in a structure.

2. How do you solve for the force on an MN gusset plate?

To solve for the force on an MN gusset plate, you need to use the method of joints or the method of sections. These methods involve breaking down the forces acting on the plate into smaller, more manageable components and using equations of equilibrium to solve for the unknown forces.

3. What factors affect the force on an MN gusset plate?

The force on an MN gusset plate is affected by the loads acting on the structure, the geometry of the structure, and the material properties of the gusset plate and the beams it connects. Other factors, such as the angle of the gusset plate and the presence of other connections, may also affect the force.

4. How do you ensure the gusset plate can withstand the calculated force?

To ensure the gusset plate can withstand the calculated force, it is important to use appropriate materials with sufficient strength, consider the design and placement of the gusset plate, and follow building codes and standards for structural design. It may also be necessary to conduct further analysis or testing to confirm the strength of the gusset plate.

5. What are some common mistakes when solving a gusset plate problem?

Some common mistakes when solving a gusset plate problem include not considering all the forces acting on the plate, using incorrect equations or assumptions, and not accounting for the geometry of the structure. It is also important to double-check calculations and ensure all units are consistent to avoid errors.

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