How can I solve a system of BVPs with only boundary conditions given?

In summary, In this conversation, the author has system of BVPs. They would like to solve the system numerically or analytically. The author suggests converting x and y to polar coordinates and solving the equations.
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amr07
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Dear all,

I have system(4 equations) of BVPs. Could anybody recommend me, how to solve this system(whatever numericaly or analytical):

x'=-y/sqrt(x^2+y^2) + u
y'=x/sqrt(x^2+y^2) + v
u' = -xy/(x^2+y^2)^3/2 u - [1/sqrt(x^2+y^2) - x^2 /(x^2+y^2)^3/2] v
v' = xy/(x^2+y^2)^3/2 v - [-1/sqrt(x^2+y^2) + y^2 /(x^2+y^2)^3/2] u

and we have only boundary condations for x and y...x(0)=y(0)=-1, x(pi/2)=y(pi/2)=1

thanks
 
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With all those "[itex]x^2+ y^2[/itex]" in there, the first thing I would try is to convert x and y to polar coordinates: [itex]x= r cos(\theta)[/itex] so that [itex]x^2+ y^2= r^2[/itex], [itex]x'= r' cos(\theta)- r sin(\theta)\theta'[/itex], and [itex]y= r sin(\theta)[/itex] so that [itex]y'= r' sin(\theta)+ r cos(\theta)\theta'[/itex].
Your first equation becomes [itex]r' cos(\theta)- r sin(\theta)\theta'= - sin(\theta)+ u[/itex] and your second equation [itex]r' sin(\theta)+ r cos(\theta)\theta'= cos(\theta)+ v[/itex]. If you multiply the first equation by [itex]cos(\theta)[/itex] and the second by [itex]sin(\theta)[/itex] and add you get [itex]r'= u cos(\theta)+ v\sin(\theta)[/itex]. If you multiply the first equation by [itex]sin(\theta)[/itex], the second by [itex]cos(\theta)[/itex] and subtract first from second you get [itex]r \theta'= 1+ v cos(\theta)- u sin(\theta)[/itex].

Of course, the third and fourth equations become
[tex]u'= -\fra{1}{r}sin(\theta)cos(\theta)u- \left[1- cos^2(\theta)\right]\frac{v}{r}[/tex]
and
[tex]v'= \frac{1}{r}sin(\theta)cos(\theta)u+ \left[1+ sin^2(\theta)\right]\frac{u}{r}[/tex]
 
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thanks
 
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HallsofIvy said:
With all those "[itex]x^2+ y^2[/itex]" in there, the first thing I would try is to convert x and y to polar coordinates: [itex]x= r cos(\theta)[/itex] so that [itex]x^2+ y^2= r^2[/itex], [itex]x'= r' cos(\theta)- r sin(\theta)\theta'[/itex], and [itex]y= r sin(\theta)[/itex] so that [itex]y'= r' sin(\theta)+ r cos(\theta)\theta'[/itex].
Your first equation becomes [itex]r' cos(\theta)- r sin(\theta)\theta'= - sin(\theta)+ u[/itex] and your second equation [itex]r' sin(\theta)+ r cos(\theta)\theta'= cos(\theta)+ v[/itex]. If you multiply the first equation by [itex]cos(\theta)[/itex] and the second by [itex]sin(\theta)[/itex] and add you get [itex]r'= u cos(\theta)+ v\sin(\theta)[/itex]. If you multiply the first equation by [itex]sin(\theta)[/itex], the second by [itex]cos(\theta)[/itex] and subtract first from second you get [itex]r \theta'= 1+ v cos(\theta)- u sin(\theta)[/itex].

Of course, the third and fourth equations become
[tex]u'= -\fra{1}{r}sin(\theta)cos(\theta)u- \left[1- cos^2(\theta)\right]\frac{v}{r}[/tex]
and
[tex]v'= \frac{1}{r}sin(\theta)cos(\theta)u+ \left[1+ sin^2(\theta)\right]\frac{u}{r}[/tex]


Dear HallsofIvy,

many thanks for your helping. the second term in the fourth equation(for v') should be [1-sin^2]. so we have no also four differential equations. it seems easily but how i can get the solution?

thanks again
 

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