Is it possible to ionize hydrogen peroxide at home?

[yair252525]

TL;DR Summary

how to check if I ionize hydrogen peroxide mist?

Hi,

I wonder maybe anyone can help me.

I’m trying to ionize hydrogen peroxide mist with the help of a high voltage electrical filed / corona arc.

And I wonder if there is a way to know if I ionize the hydrogen peroxide mist at all? And if so, how much do I ionize it (compering to deferent voltages… ).
I mean to do a home experiment to check it, with no sophisticated lab equipment. just to see if I have any effect at all. Thx.

Yair.

 

[berkeman]

Welcome to the PF.

(BTW -- I have deleted your other cross-posts of this question in other forums. Please only post one copy of a new thread. Thank you.)

I’m trying to ionize hydrogen peroxide mist with the help of a high voltage electrical filed / corona arc.

Why? What is the purpose of such ionization?

I mean to do a home experiment to check it, with no sophisticated lab equipment.

So you don't even have a chemical hood for conducting this experiment? What is your background in chemistry and materials? What lab classes have you taken so far?

 

[berkeman]

Why? What is the purpose of such ionization?

Are you trying to do this?

https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30178-X/fulltext

Disinfection of N95 respirators by ionized hydrogen peroxide during pandemic Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) due to SARS-CoV-2

 

[yair252525]

Are you trying to do this?

https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30178-X/fulltext

Disinfection of N95 respirators by ionized hydrogen peroxide during pandemic Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) due to SARS-CoV-2

yes.

 

[yair252525]

Welcome to the PF.

(BTW -- I have deleted your other cross-posts of this question in other forums. Please only post one copy of a new thread. Thank you.)

Why? What is the purpose of such ionization?

So you don't even have a chemical hood for conducting this experiment? What is your background in chemistry and materials? What lab classes have you taken so far?

I don't have any background.
the gas and arc I can make. i just what to know if it is ionizing
or not.

 

[Borek]

Probably nothing you can do without a specialized equipment.

 

[chemisttree]

Colorimetric Indicator for Detection of Hydroxyl Radicals.

US Patent

 

[yair252525]

what about measuring the conductivity/ resistance in the air/ mist ? would I see a change?
or an easy way to look at the right spectrum of light to see a change? (when looking at ozone making. we can see a small ching)

 

[chemisttree]

You would be measuring something unrelated to the action of the ‘ionized’ mist, namely, the generation of virus-killing reactive hydroxyl radicals. Might be a waste of time.

 

[yair252525]

You would be measuring something unrelated to the action of the ‘ionized’ mist, namely, the generation of virus-killing reactive hydroxyl radicals. Might be a waste of time.

thx.
I did not understand why do you think it is a waste of time?
BTY, if I ionized gas- don't I change it electrical filed and by that change its conductivity?

 

[chemisttree]

Yeah, sure you would. But measuring ionized air would tell you nothing about how well hydroxyl radicals killed virus. The reported mechanism is that the cold arc generator produces reactive hydroxyl radicals and that they inactivate virus.
Why do you want to measure resistance, capacitance or impedance of ionized air? Got a Theremin laying around you want to use?

 

[berkeman]

I don't have any background.

So you are not going to be able to duplicate this protocol safely (from the link in post #3):

Therefore, we attempted to disinfect N95 respirators using SteraMist Binary Ionization Technology solution delivered through a SteraMist Surface Unit, registered with the US Environmental Protection Agency [5].

The main constituent is 7.8% H2O2 solution, which is converted to ionized H2O2 (iHP) after passing through a cold plasma arc, and moves like a gas over the surfaces of N95 respirators. The by-product of iHP is oxygen and water in the form of humidity.
The experiment was conducted in a well-ventilated room with six air changes per hour inside a biosafety level 2 microbiology laboratory, with the operator wearing a coverall protective gown.

Since you would not be able to do this experiment safely, we need to close this thread now.