Is there a more efficient method for determining if the gas is heated or cooled?

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In summary, the attempt at a solution for homework Equations PV=nRT is to differentiate both sides to get V^2dP+2PVdV=0. Using this along with PdV+VdP=nRdT, we get PdV=-nRdT. Since dV is positive, dT is negative which means the gas falls or is cooled. The analysis done in the attached image is correct.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



PV = nRT

The Attempt at a Solution



##PV^2 = constant##

Differentiating both the sides we get , ##V^2dP + 2PVdV = 0 ##

Now , using this along with ##PdV+VdP=nRdT## , we get ## PdV = - nRdT ## .

Since ##dV## is positive , ##dT## is negative which means the temperature falls or gas is cooled .

Is this the correct way to analyze the problem ?

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Thank you .

Please check the attached image containing the official solution . Do you think the analysis done in it is correct ? I could not understand it .
 

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Vibhor said:
Thank you .

Please check the attached image containing the official solution . Do you think the analysis done in it is correct ? I could not understand it .
For the same fractional increase in volume the final pressure is lower, so the temperature must have decreased rather than staying constant. It's equivalent to what you did mathematically, but I like the way you did it better.
 
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A gas does positive work when it expands.
The internal energy is used for this resulting in a decrease in the gas's temperature, unless heat is supplied to cancel this.
When just enough heat is supplied to cancel this we get that Boyle's law is upheld, or put another way the gas is kept at a constant temperature by a heat source.
This means that the heat into the system is used to do the work or produce the expansion.
In this case the gas has to expand even more to keep the product constant (V2).
 
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andrevdh said:
A gas does positive work when it expands.
The internal energy is used for this resulting in a decrease in the gas's temperature, unless heat is supplied to cancel this.
When just enough heat is supplied to cancel this we get that Boyle's law is upheld, or put another way the gas is kept at a constant temperature by a heat source.
This means that the heat into the system is used to do the work or produce the expansion.
In this case the gas has to expand even more to keep the product constant (V2).
There is no need to invoke internal energy or the first law to address this problem. This can be done strictly as an ideal gas equation analysis.
 
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Ok
 
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Another approach is to substitute ##P = nRT/V## into ##PV^2 = ##constant to get ##TV = ## constant.
 
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TSny said:
Another approach is to substitute ##P = nRT/V## into ##PV^2 = ##constant to get ##TV = ## constant.

Fantastic ! You made my work in OP look silly :-p.
 

Related to Is there a more efficient method for determining if the gas is heated or cooled?

1. Is the gas heated or cooled?

The answer to this question depends on the specific gas in question and the conditions it is undergoing. Generally, if the gas is in a closed system and no external energy is being added or removed, the gas will cool as it expands and heats as it is compressed. However, if energy is being added (e.g. through a heat source) or removed (e.g. through a refrigeration system), the gas can be heated or cooled intentionally.

2. How is the temperature of a gas affected by heating or cooling?

When a gas is heated, the average kinetic energy of its molecules increases, causing them to move faster and collide with each other more frequently. This results in an increase in temperature. On the other hand, when a gas is cooled, the average kinetic energy of its molecules decreases, causing them to move slower and collide with each other less frequently. This results in a decrease in temperature.

3. What is the relationship between temperature and pressure in a gas?

According to the ideal gas law, the pressure of a gas is directly proportional to its temperature, assuming the volume and number of gas molecules stay constant. This means that as the temperature of a gas increases, its pressure will also increase, and vice versa.

4. How does the volume of a gas change when it is heated or cooled?

When a gas is heated, its volume will increase as the molecules move faster and take up more space. On the other hand, when a gas is cooled, its volume will decrease as the molecules move slower and take up less space. This is because the volume of a gas is directly proportional to its temperature, assuming the pressure and number of gas molecules stay constant.

5. Can a gas be both heated and cooled at the same time?

In a closed system, a gas cannot be both heated and cooled simultaneously. This is because the addition of heat will raise the temperature and increase the average kinetic energy of the molecules, while the removal of heat will lower the temperature and decrease the average kinetic energy. However, in certain situations, different parts of a gas may experience heating and cooling simultaneously, such as in a non-uniform gas flow with varying temperatures.

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