Is this moment a bending or a torsion?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of torsion and whether a moment in a certain direction can be considered torsion. The participants also consider the role of welds and shear forces in this scenario. Ultimately, it is concluded that the welds play a significant role in resisting pure shear loads and the strength of the weld metal is crucial.
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torsion vs bending
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As you could see the moment try to make beam to rotate in the support plane with the wall which mean for me this moment is on the Z direction but the longitudinal axis is the X direction and I know that for a moment to be torsion it needs to be in a longitudinal direction, but the solution says it´s a torsion! any help would be highly appreciated thanks!
 
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It seems that the 100x12 plate is trying to rotate about an axis that is perpendicular to the 100x12 face.
That makes both welds resist pure shear loads.
 
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Amazing! clear now, but it´s not torsion right?
 
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Amaelle said:
Amazing! clear now, but it´s not torsion right?
Technically, it can be considered torsion, because the magnitude and direction of the shearing load for each section of the welds (along L) depend on the radius or distance between it and the center of the moment M.
 
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Lnewqban said:
That makes both welds resist pure shear loads.
I agree.
It is a couple.
The shear is in the contact zones of the welds which have an area of contact with the plate. But the mid-plane of the flat surface weld has an area of only 1/√2 = 70%.
So the strength will come down to the strength of the weld metal, and the skill of the weldor.
 
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Lnewqban said:
Technically, it can be considered torsion, because the magnitude and direction of the shearing load for each section of the welds (along L) depend on the radius or distance between it and the center of the moment M.
I was thinking the same thing after you pointed out to the shear forces! thanks a million!
 
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1. What is the difference between bending and torsion?

Bending and torsion are two types of mechanical loading that can occur in a structure. Bending refers to the deformation of a structure due to a force applied perpendicular to its longitudinal axis, while torsion refers to the twisting of a structure due to a moment applied along its longitudinal axis.

2. How can I determine if a moment is a bending or a torsion?

The best way to determine if a moment is a bending or a torsion is to look at the direction of the applied force or moment. If the force is applied perpendicular to the longitudinal axis, it is a bending moment. If the moment is applied along the longitudinal axis, it is a torsion moment.

3. What are some examples of bending and torsion in everyday life?

Examples of bending include bending a pencil, stepping on a diving board, or bending a tree branch. Examples of torsion include twisting a bottle cap, opening a jar lid, or turning a doorknob.

4. Can a structure experience both bending and torsion at the same time?

Yes, it is possible for a structure to experience both bending and torsion at the same time. This can occur when a force is applied at an angle to the longitudinal axis of the structure, causing both bending and torsion moments to act on the structure.

5. How do bending and torsion affect the strength of a structure?

Bending and torsion can both cause stress and strain in a structure, which can ultimately affect its strength. Bending can cause a structure to bend or break, while torsion can cause a structure to twist or shear. The amount of stress and strain a structure can withstand before failure depends on its material properties and design.

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