Kepler's law of periods problems about orbiting satellite

In summary: I just realized something. The OP's question was about synchronous orbits, so the satellite wouldn't be in orbit about the planet in question at all, but about the barycenter of the planet-satellite system. And so the mass used in the equations would be that of the planet and the satellite combined, and the orbit radius would be measured from the barycenter, etc.Are you sure that you've given the whole problem statement?I just realized something. The OP's question was about synchronous orbits, so the satellite wouldn't be in orbit about the planet in question at all, but about the barycenter of the planet-satellite system. And so the mass used in the equations would be that
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Homework Statement


Question 1: A orbiting satellite stays over a certain spot on the equator of (rotating) Pluto. What is the altitude of the orbit (called a "synchronous orbit")? (The radius of Pluto is 1150 km.)

Question 2:A orbiting satellite stays over a certain spot on the equator of (rotating) Venus. What is the altitude of the orbit (called a "synchronous orbit")? (The radius of Venus is 6050 km.)

Homework Equations


Kepler's law of periods:

T^3 = (r^3)(4pi^2)/GM

The Attempt at a Solution



Hi everyone, these two problems have been boggling me so bad. This is part of some online homework due midnight and these are the only two problems I was not able to do. I also have only one submission for each as I have no idea what I am doing wrong. I searched the forums and found a very similar question with a different planet and followed their work, but was too afraid to punch in my answer. I would love it if someone can confirm my work for me please. Here is my work:

T^3 = (r^3)(4pi^2)/GM

I solved for r:

r = [ (T^2)(G)(M)/(4pi^2) ]^1/3

For pluto, my first question, I used G = 6.67x10^-11, T = 6.39 days = 552096, and Mass of pluto, M= 1.309x10^22kg. I plugged in all of these values into my previous equation and got:

r = 18890566.49 m = 18890.56km

Then, h = r - r pluto = 18890.56 - 1150 = 17740.56km (final answer).

For venus, I did the same but instead I used the following values:
T = 116days and 18 hours = 10264800seconds
M =4.867x10^24 kg

Do the same as above, I got r = 953329010.5 m = 953329km

h = r - r venus = 953329km - 6050km = 947279km

Each question is qorth 13% of this homework assignment and would love it if someone could confirm whether these are correct or not. I really appreciate it.
 
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Your Pluto numbers look okay to me. For Venus however, your number of seconds for the period looks a bit high. 1.026 x 107 seconds is nearly 119 days.
 
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gneill said:
Your Pluto numbers look okay to me. For Venus however, your number of seconds for the period looks a bit high. 1.026 x 107 seconds is nearly 119 days.

Thanks for the reply. For Venus, I looked up that 1 day for venus is equivalent to 116 Earth days and 18 hours. I converted this to seconds and used that for my value of T?
 
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placebooooo said:
Thanks for the reply. For Venus, I looked up that 1 day for venus is equivalent to 116 Earth days and 18 hours. I converted this to seconds and used that for my value of T?
Hmm. I'd be curious to know where you got that value. The sidereal rotation period of Venus is about 243 days long, or 5832.6 hours more precisely. (Venus' "day" is actually longer than its year! And thus the axial rotation is retrograde).

Either way, 116 days + 18 hrs would yield 10087200 seconds, so your calculation of that value is off. But I think you need to discard that value anyways since it doesn't reflect the rotation period of Venus.
 
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gneill said:
Hmm. I'd be curious to know where you got that value. The sidereal rotation period of Venus is about 243 days long, or 5832.6 hours more precisely. (Venus' "day" is actually longer than its year! And thus the axial rotation is retrograde).

Either way, 116 days + 18 hrs would yield 10087200 seconds, so your calculation of that value is off. But I think you need to discard that value anyways since it doesn't reflect the rotation period of Venus.

Interesting! But very hard to picture indeed! I did not know that its year is shorter than its day. I learned a rather interesting fact today :)

Going back to the value, I got that value from google simply by searching "what is the mass of venus" and I got additional information on Venus on the sidebar of google :/Anyway, using the alue for the sidereal rotation period for venus, 5832.6 hours yields 20997360seconds for T which ultimately gives me an altitude of 1530165.9km. Does that look any better?
 
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placebooooo said:
Interesting! But very hard to picture indeed! I did not know that its year is shorter than its day. I learned a rather interesting fact today :)

Going back to the value, I got that value from google simply by searching "what is the mass of venus" and I got additional information on Venus on the sidebar of google :/
Ouch! :mad: If you search instead for "Venus rotation period" it returns 243 days. So. I guess that tells us something about trusting web resources.
Anyway, using the alue for the sidereal rotation period for venus, 5832.6 hours yields 20997360seconds for T which ultimately gives me an altitude of 1530165.9km. Does that look any better?
Yup. Looks much better. Be sure to round to an appropriate number of significant figures.
 
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gneill said:
Ouch! :mad: If you search instead for "Venus rotation period" it returns 243 days. So. I guess that tells us something about trusting web resources.

Yup. Looks much better. Be sure to round to an appropriate number of significant figures.

That was definitely my fault. Definitely have to work on my google-Fu skills :)
Thank you so much for the help gneill! I greatly appreciate it!
 
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Glad to help.

When I look for figures about a planet I usually go to the Nasa planet fact sheets:

Venus Fact Sheet
 

1. What is Kepler's law of periods?

Kepler's law of periods is one of three laws discovered by astronomer Johannes Kepler. It states that the square of an orbiting object's orbital period (the time it takes to complete one orbit) is proportional to the cube of its semi-major axis (half of the longest diameter of its elliptical orbit).

2. How is Kepler's law of periods useful for orbiting satellites?

Kepler's law of periods is useful for calculating the orbital period of a satellite, given its semi-major axis. This information is important for satellite operators to understand how long their satellites will take to complete one orbit around the Earth.

3. Can Kepler's law of periods be applied to any orbiting object?

Yes, Kepler's law of periods can be applied to any orbiting object, as long as the object is orbiting around a larger central body (such as a planet or star) and the orbit is elliptical in shape.

4. What are some common problems encountered when applying Kepler's law of periods to orbiting satellites?

Some common problems encountered when applying Kepler's law of periods to orbiting satellites include accounting for external forces such as atmospheric drag or gravitational pulls from other objects, and accurately measuring the semi-major axis of the satellite's orbit.

5. How does Kepler's law of periods relate to Newton's law of universal gravitation?

Kepler's law of periods is a consequence of Newton's law of universal gravitation, which states that the gravitational force between two objects is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

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