Kirchhoff Law Problem: Find Current and Potential Difference | Solution Included

In summary: So Vx-Vy = 12V. Therefore Vy is -12V.In summary, the conversation discusses using Kirchhoff's law to solve a circuit and find the current and potential difference between two points. It also mentions assigning potentials and calculating voltage drops. The conversation ends with a question about a negative value for voltage.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


Kirchhoff Law
1. Find the current in the circuit
2. Find the potential diferent between X and Y

The Attempt at a Solution



1 by using the kirchhoff law. V=IR
I=0.025

question 2 I=0.025
but how to find Vx and Vy?
Vx =IR
I =0.025 but which R is supposed to use?
 
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Your current direction is correct. One way to solve this problem would be by assigning potentials and calculating voltage drops. Assume potential of point W to be 0V. That way, +ve terminal of 20V source will be at 20V. Then calculate drop across 40 ohm resistor. Point x will be at 20-V40Ω potential. Go on with this along the loop and find potential of point y. Difference between them is your Vxy.
 
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Thanks! I got it
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By using kirchhoff law i get all the current
the question ask to find the PD between A and B, the question is the voltage drop i should begin in which point? Because there is 2 sources
 
  • #4
You can start by either assuming A at 3V or assuming B at 0V. Since you know i1, assuming B at 0V will be easier.
 
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But point A is supplied by 2 battery of 3V.If i use voltage drop, I only need to look at the top loop?
 
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WeiLoong said:
But point A is supplied by 2 battery of 3V.If i use voltage drop, I only need to look at the top loop?
You need to find the currents using the two loops (which will include both the sources) and then by assuming a suitable reference( VB=0V), you can find Vab like you did in the last problem.
 
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if i assume Vb =0
-6(I2)+3V=Va?
 
  • #8
WeiLoong said:
if i assume Vb =0
-6(I2)+3V=Va?
-6I1+3V=Va..
 
  • #9
Ops mistake haaha. thank you , have a good day!
 
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If Vx is 0 , what is the V in point Y
-12(I1)-8(I2)=Vy
which i will gef -12V in Y, is this possible for me to get 12V in negative value?
 
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WeiLoong said:
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If Vx is 0 , what is the V in point Y
-12(I1)-8(I2)=Vy
which i will gef -12V in Y, is this possible for me to get 12V in negative value?
Yes. In fact you don't even need to know the current for that. Moving from x to y along the bottom wire, you can see a voltage drop of 12V.
 

1. What are Kirchhoff's laws?

Kirchhoff's laws are two principles that govern the behavior of electric circuits. The first law, also known as Kirchhoff's current law, states that the sum of currents entering a node or junction in a circuit must be equal to the sum of currents leaving that node. The second law, known as Kirchhoff's voltage law, states that the sum of voltages around a closed loop in a circuit must equal zero.

2. How are Kirchhoff's laws applied to solve circuit problems?

Kirchhoff's laws are used to analyze complex circuits and solve for unknown values such as current, voltage, and resistance. By applying these laws to a circuit, a system of equations can be created and solved to determine the values of these unknown variables.

3. What is a "Kirchhoff law problem"?

A "Kirchhoff law problem" is a type of circuit problem that involves applying Kirchhoff's laws to solve for unknown values in a circuit. These problems typically involve multiple components such as resistors, capacitors, and voltage sources, and require the use of Kirchhoff's laws to determine the values of these components.

4. What are some common challenges in solving Kirchhoff law problems?

One common challenge in solving Kirchhoff law problems is determining the correct direction for current and voltage in a circuit. Another challenge is setting up the correct equations based on the given information in the problem. It is also important to remember to consider the signs of values, such as directions of currents, when applying Kirchhoff's laws.

5. Are there any shortcuts or tricks for solving Kirchhoff law problems?

There are no shortcuts or tricks for solving Kirchhoff law problems. The key to successfully solving these problems is to have a thorough understanding of Kirchhoff's laws and how to apply them. Practice and familiarity with different types of circuits can also help in solving these problems efficiently.

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