Minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph

In summary, the conversation discussed the minimum magnitude of an astronomical object that can be observed with a given telescope-spectroscope combination. The formula for calculating this magnitude, known as Bowen's formula, was mentioned but caused confusion due to the low value of the spectral resolution. The conversation also mentioned the approximation of the ratio between the beam diameter and the spectral resolution, as well as the lack of information about this formula online.
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I am stuck on a problem regarding the minimum magnitude of an astronomical object that can be handled by a given telescope+spectroscope combination. The telescope aperture (D_T) is 2 m wide, the exit beam (D1) is 3 cm wide. The slit width (s) is 10 micrometers. The wavelength of interest is 450 nm. The focal length of the collimator is f1, detector f2. Alpha is the Rayleigh criterion of the telescope, H is the height of the spectrum. Let t be the exposure time. The spectral resolution of this spectroscope is 0.1 Angstrom.

My textbook says that "The limiting magnitude of a telescope–spectroscope combination is the magnitude of
the faintest star for which a useful spectrum may be obtained. A guide to the limiting magnitude may be gained through the use of Bowen’s formula." The Bowen's formula goes:

$$ m = 12.5 + 2.5 log_{10}(\frac{s*D_1*D_T*g*q*t*\frac{d\lambda}{d\theta}}{f_1*f_2*\alpha*H}) $$

This formula confuses me a lot. The textbook tells us to approximate ##\frac{d\lambda}{d\theta}## as the ratio between the diameter of the beam and the resolution of the spectrograph. Honestly, because of how high resolution this spectrograph is, (which is not abnormal anyway) (##\frac{d\lambda}{d\theta}## is coming out to be a very low value (and the inverse of that value appears again in f2, making the total value even lower), and subsequently, the whole log10 result ends up being negative, which is made worse by the 2.5 factor, resulting in the whole answer being negative magnitude: which is obviously wrong. For a realistic setup, (forget the question for now), how is this calculated? I haven't found a single mention of this formula anywhere online apart from the textbook. Any suggestions would be very helpful, thanks!
 
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Seems dλ/dθ should be a large number if the beam 3 cm and resolution is sub nanometer.
 
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Sorry, the resolution that's in the denominator of dλ/dθ is some sort of a dimensionless quantity, which actually is the ratio between the wavelength of interest and the spectral resolution. So essentially something like 4500 angstrom divided by 0.1 angstrom.
 

1. What is the minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph?

The minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph refers to the faintest object that can be detected and measured by the instrument. It is a measure of the sensitivity of the spectrograph and is determined by factors such as the size of the telescope, the quality of the optics, and the efficiency of the detector.

2. How is the minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph calculated?

The minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph is typically calculated based on the signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) of the instrument. This is determined by comparing the amount of light from the object being observed to the amount of background noise in the data. The higher the SNR, the fainter the object that can be detected and measured.

3. Can the minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph vary for different types of objects?

Yes, the minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph can vary depending on the type of object being observed. For example, a spectrograph may be able to detect faint galaxies, but may not be sensitive enough to detect fainter stars or planets.

4. How does the minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph affect the type of objects that can be studied?

The minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph can greatly impact the type of objects that can be studied. A more sensitive spectrograph will be able to detect and measure fainter objects, allowing for a wider range of celestial objects to be studied. This is important in fields such as exoplanet research, where the faintness of planets makes them difficult to detect.

5. Can the minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph be improved?

Yes, the minimum magnitude resolvable by a spectrograph can be improved through advancements in technology and instrument design. This includes improvements in telescope optics, detector sensitivity, and data analysis techniques. As technology continues to advance, spectrographs are becoming more and more sensitive, allowing for the study of even fainter objects in the universe.

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