Momentum, vector addition question

In summary, the conversation was about a question involving a car and a truck colliding at an intersection. The car had a mass of 1400 kg and was traveling at 50 km/h westbound while the truck had a mass of 2000 kg and was traveling at 40 km/h northbound. The question was asking for the initial common velocity of the car and truck after the collision, assuming it was an inelastic collision. The equations used were p = mv and m1v1 + m2v2 = (m1 + m2)vf. The final answer was found to be 9.3 m/s.
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Homework Statement


A car with a mass of 1400 kg is westbound at 50 km/h. It collides at an intersection with a northbound truck having a mass of 2000 kg and traveling at 40 km/h. What is the initial common velocity of the car and trucks after collision if it's an inelastic collision?

Homework Equations


p = mv

The Attempt at a Solution


So I got this question wrong, but I can't seem to get the right answer no matter how I look at it. I think maybe I lost marks because I didn't use the method the teacher wanted (which is fine with me)?? Let me know guys.

m1v1 + m2v2 = (m1 + m2)vf

(1400kg)(13.888m/s) + 0 = (1400kg + 2000kg)(vfx)
vf = 5.7189... m/s

0 + (2000 kg)(12.5 m/s) = (1400kg + 2000kg)(vfy)
vf = 7.35294.. m/s

(5.7)2 + (7.3)2 = r2
vf = 9.3 m/s

tan-1(7.3 / 5.7 m/s)
= 52 N of W
= 128 degrees

I tried a different approach and found P(car) and P(truck), then P(combined), solved for Vf, but I got the same answer:

(1400 kg)(13.888 m/s) = 19443.2 kg m/s West
(2000 kg)(12.5 m/s) = 25000 kg m/s North
pythagorean theorem...
= 31670.77559 kg m/s
momentum is conserved so
31670.78 = (2000 + 1400) vf
vf = 9.3 m/s!
 
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Hi.
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Your method looks right, though I haven't checked your arithmetic.
 
  • #3
Your method is correct - your answer is different from mine.
Note: do algebra before plugging numbers in, check for rounding errors.
 
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Hey, redid the algebra, got the same answer. What was your answer Simon Bridge?vfx = (1400 kg)(13.888m/s) / (1400kg + 2000kg)
=5.7189 m/s
vfy = (2000 kg)(12.5 m/s) / (1400kg + 2000kg)
= 7.35294 m/s

(5.71892 + 7.352942)1/2 = vf
 
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Never mind, I converted 40km/hr to 12.5 m/s, should have been 11.1 m/s. That sucks, lost a lot of marks for it.

I got 8.7 m/s as my answer.
 
  • #6
... and that was my answer.
I did the components in kmph and converted at the end... the fewer conversions you do the better.
 

1. What is momentum?

Momentum is a physical quantity that measures the amount of motion an object has. It is calculated by multiplying an object's mass by its velocity.

2. How is momentum different from velocity?

Velocity is a vector quantity that describes the speed and direction of an object's motion. Momentum, on the other hand, is a vector quantity that also takes into account the mass of the object.

3. What is the principle of conservation of momentum?

The principle of conservation of momentum states that in a closed system, the total momentum before an event is equal to the total momentum after the event. This means that momentum is conserved and cannot be created or destroyed.

4. How do you add two vectors to find the total momentum?

To add two vectors, you need to take into account their direction and magnitude. This can be done using vector addition, where you add the components of each vector in the x and y directions separately to find the total momentum.

5. How does momentum affect collisions?

In a collision, the total momentum of the system remains constant. This means that if one object gains momentum, another object must lose an equal amount of momentum in the opposite direction. This is known as the conservation of momentum principle.

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