No Dark Matter or gravity modification for flat rot

In summary, the authors of the paper argue that the Mestel (1963) disk is a key piece of evidence showing that gravity is not the controlling force in gaseous self-gravitating disks. They have solved the full Newtonian problem and found that universal rotation curves emerge in spiral galaxy disks without the need for dark matter or modified gravity. However, their results do not fully explain all instances of dark matter and may not be applicable to all types of galaxies. The paper has drawn considerable interest and may help explain some anomalies in dark matter distribution, but it is not enough to dismiss dark matter entirely.
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Is this a break though or just hot air?

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1510.05534.pdf
We do not claim that the Mestel (1963) disk is the answer to establishing the universality of flat rotation curves in galaxy disks; only that it has always been a telling clue that gravity does not pull the strings and is not in control in gaseous self-gravitating disks. Furthermore, we have solved the full Newtonian problem and we now know precisely how such universal rotation curves emerge in spiral galaxy disks. The resolution of this ubiquitous problem is the subject of this paper. Before we can delve into the physics of the problem, we need to correct some common misconceptions that appear in the theory of second-order differential equations and which also have made their way into the textbooks. We do so in § 2. Then, in § 3, we revisit the theory of rotating Newtonian isothermal gaseous-disk equilibrium models and we calculate analytically the mean shapes of their density profiles and their rotation curves. The results match precisely the shapes of the rotation curves of spiral galaxy disks with no additional assumptions of any kind. So these results make a strong case against both dark matter and modified gravity and their implications have far-reaching consequences
 
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Kazanas has a pretty good track record for publications/citations. It is not apt to be complete hot air.
The other guy is younger, has been a frequent co-author.

They are allowing for pressure in a rotating gaseous disk. This might help explain SOME of the flatness of the rotation curves. But Dark Matter comes in at several different scales besides spiral galaxy rotation. What they say is not so consequential. It is interesting but does not change the overall picture AFAICS.
 
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A it is certainly an interesting paper and may also help explain some apparent dark matter distribution anomalies - like the core cusp problem. Another paper today; http://arxiv.org/abs/1510.05150, Dynamical measurement of the stellar surface density of face-on galaxies, highlights another such curiousity. It will be very interesting to see how the op paper is received by the community at large. I expect it will draw considerable interest. I agree with marcus in that it does not appear sufficient to explain away dark matter under all circumstances. The bullet cluster still looks pretty compelling and the dark matter fraction suggested by CMB data also looks strong. On the other hand, could it be, as the authors suggest, dark matter searches may turn out to be a modern day aether hunt?
 
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I don't think in my honest opinion that this passes the sniff test, but I will give it a look. My prime criticism is if this flattens the H I rotation curves of the gas disk why then would stellar rotation also be flat? Stars essentially don't feel pressure. Then there are also problems of galaxy-galaxy lensing and so on.
 
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Do you guys not think that each type of galaxy has a different history and different laws for rotation curves?
 
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No, but, it lappears entirely plausible that different dynamics could affect their rotation curves.
 

Related to No Dark Matter or gravity modification for flat rot

1. What is "No Dark Matter or gravity modification for flat rot"?

"No Dark Matter or gravity modification for flat rot" is a theory proposed by scientists that suggests that the phenomenon of dark matter and the need for modifications to the theory of gravity may not be necessary to explain the rotation of galaxies and other large-scale structures in the universe.

2. How does this theory challenge current understandings of dark matter and gravity?

This theory challenges the current understanding because it suggests that the observed effects attributed to dark matter and modifications to the theory of gravity may actually be explained by alternative explanations, such as the distribution of ordinary matter and the interactions between particles.

3. What evidence supports this theory?

There is evidence from observations of galaxies and computer simulations that suggest that the distribution of ordinary matter and the interactions between particles can account for the observed rotation of galaxies and other large-scale structures without the need for dark matter or modifications to the theory of gravity.

4. How does this theory impact our understanding of the universe?

If this theory is proven to be true, it would significantly impact our understanding of the universe and the laws of physics. It would challenge the long-standing belief in the existence of dark matter and the need for modifications to the theory of gravity, and open up new possibilities for understanding the dynamics of the universe.

5. What is the current consensus among scientists regarding this theory?

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