Normal of a point on an ellipse

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the ratio of lengths AP and BP at the tangent and normal points on an ellipse, using the eccentric angle of point P. The equation for the tangent is quoted correctly from the book, but it seems like there may be a typo in the answers section as the correct answer is different from the one calculated.
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Homework Statement


11) The tangent at P on the ellipse [itex] \frac{x^2}{a^2}+
\frac{y^2}{b^2}=1[/itex] meets the x and y axes at A and B.
Find, in terms of the eccentric angle of P, the ratio of the lengths AP and BP.

12) Repeat Question 11 using the normal at P.

Homework Equations



[itex]bx \cos \theta + ay \sin \theta = ab [/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
I had no significant difficulty with 11, my problem was with 12:

The normal at P is

[itex]y=\frac {a\sin\theta}{b\cos\theta}x-\frac{(a^2-b^2)\sin\theta}{b}
[/itex]

When y = 0

[itex]x=\frac{(a^2-b^2)\cos\theta}{a}
[/itex]

So

[itex]A =\left(\begin{array}{cc}\frac{(a^2-b^2)\cos\theta}{a}&0\end{array}\right)[/itex]

When x = 0

[itex]y=-\frac{(a^2-b^2)\sin\theta}{b}
[/itex]

So

[itex]B =\left(\begin{array}{cc}0&-\frac{(a^2-b^2)\sin\theta}{b}\end{array}\right)[/itex]

[itex]AP^2= (a\cos\theta-\frac{(a^2-b^2)\cos\theta}{
a})^2+
(b\sin\theta)^2
[/itex]

[itex]BP^2= (b\sin\theta+\frac{(a^2-b^2)\sin\theta}{
b})^2 +
(a\cos\theta)^2
[/itex]

[itex]\frac{AP^2}{BP^2}=\frac{b^4(a^2\sin^2\theta+b^2\cos^2\theta)}{
a^4(a^2\sin^2\theta+b^2\cos^2\theta)}
[/itex]

[itex]\frac{AP}{BP}=\frac{b^2}{a^2}

[/itex] = the ratio of the lengths AP to BP

However my textbook says the correct answer is
[itex]\frac{a^2}{b^2}

[/itex]
 
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  • #2
Check to see if you've used a and b the same way as your textbook.

I noticed in your response to 2. that you have ##bx cos \theta + ay sin \theta = ab##

Perhaps your book has defined it as ax and by instead
 
  • #3
Hi jedishrfu, thanks for your reply, I hadn't considered that. However the equation of the tangent does seem to be quoted from the book correctly, although I used the following rearranged one, also quoted in the book, in my calculations:

[itex]
\frac{x}{a}\cos\theta + \frac{y}{b}\sin\theta = 1
[/itex]

If i have quoted the equation of the tangent from the book correctly can I put this error down to a typo in the answers section of the book?
 

What is the definition of the Normal of a point on an ellipse?

The Normal of a point on an ellipse is a line that is perpendicular to the tangent line at that point. It represents the direction in which the curve is changing at that particular point.

How is the Normal of a point on an ellipse calculated?

The Normal of a point on an ellipse can be calculated by finding the derivative of the ellipse equation at that point and then finding the negative reciprocal of that derivative.

What is the significance of the Normal of a point on an ellipse?

The Normal of a point on an ellipse is important in understanding the curvature of the ellipse at that point. It can also be used in calculating the curvature of the ellipse at that point.

How does the Normal of a point on an ellipse differ from the Normal of a point on a circle?

The Normal of a point on an ellipse is not always the same as the Normal of a point on a circle. This is because the curvature of an ellipse varies at different points along the curve, while a circle has a constant curvature.

Can the Normal of a point on an ellipse be negative?

Yes, the Normal of a point on an ellipse can be negative. This indicates that the direction of the curve at that point is changing in the opposite direction of the tangent line.

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