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Wow, they really shouldn't have snubbed a lady who can probably make a functional hydrogen bomb out of spare parts...
Proton Soup said:meh, it's just that women are really good with the verbal part of their brain. it's like the reverse situation for engineering. i take it more as a sign that, on average, men and women are simply different and excel at different tasks. so we are never going to see a homogeneity among professions, nor should we expect to.
Topher925 said:Exactly. I say get rid of all these equality laws and let employers/organizations choose who they think is the best candidate for the job. The world is not an after school special.
Thank you! It's definitely one I like, it's a great group of people. The project requires quite a bit of intellectual investment and is part of a large international framework, a real challenge
That's because you won't let me write your cover letter.Kurdt said:I've had AN interview in the past 5 years. Mainly rejections.
Evo said:That's because you won't let me write your cover letter.
ExactlyDanger said:Monique, I'm glad to hear that you got a job that you like with an obviously more astute employer.
I've never seen a female in science get more benefits, the only thing I know of the it L'Oreal foundation for Women in Science: something you'd expect from a cosmetics brand. The fact that most professors in biological sciences are still male, means that women still have a lot of ground to gain. I'm not for positive discrimination of women though, people should be judged for their qualities and not be cast aside because of gender.PhDorBust said:Females get a ridiculous number of benefits if they study the sciences. This is why many people view them as less competent - they usually are.
This not directed towards any constitutional deficiency but rather a product of the US political state.
I agree. Like there are labs who say they only want to hire males, there are also the labs who say they only want to hire a foreigner. I get worked up when I hear something like that.chiro said:You know its weird but I see nowadays that a lot of employers like to be known as "diverse" for the variety of their employees to give a message (mostly PR) that they are "culturally sensitive and knowledgeable".
To me I think its pretty ****ed up. People like to come across in a way that says "I don't discriminate" yet the idiots do it automatically by doing things like saying "so many must be black, so many must be Hispanic, so many must be female" and so on.
Basically they are doing what they said they wouldn't do.
While I would probably tend to agree that men and women have different strengths/weaknesses, ultimately that is deeper analysis than is really needed. All that really matters is the fact that the sexes choose different professions.Proton Soup said:meh, it's just that women are really good with the verbal part of their brain. it's like the reverse situation for engineering. i take it more as a sign that, on average, men and women are simply different and excel at different tasks. so we are never going to see a homogeneity among professions, nor should we expect to.
russ_watters said:While I would probably tend to agree that men and women have different strengths/weaknesses, ultimately that is deeper analysis than is really needed. All that really matters is the fact that the sexes choose different professions.
I'm with monique here 'cause I actually went and researched this back when I was applying for grad school. All the fellowships are really difficult to get and severely limited in scope, and therefore not that shiny. Basically if someone can can win one of the opportunities offered to girls, it's 'cause her stats are awesome enough to win almost anything.PhDorBust said:Females get a ridiculous number of benefits if they study the sciences.
It's mostly a numbers thing. Most of my my undergrad CS and EE classes had 3-5 girls to 25-30 guys. Of those girls, about half were incompetent, but guess what? so were about half those guys. (Hell more, because studies find that girls are more likely to leave fields they're bad at than guys are).PhDorBust said:This is why many people view them as less competent - they usually are.
Most of the studies on this find that it's very cultural, 'cause countries like Russia and India are always posted as examples where there's basically gender parity in many of the STEM fields.All that really matters is the fact that the sexes choose different professions.