Penguin on a slide with friction: find the angle of the slide

In summary, the angle of the slide can be found using the equations of motion and the coefficient of kinetic friction. After solving for the times with and without friction, setting them equal and solving for the angle using algebra, the angle is found to be 40.9 degrees.
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1.Question:

A penguin is going down a slide. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the penguin and the slide has a value of 0.77. It takes three times as long to slide down this slide as it would if the slide were frictionless. Find the angle of the slide.
2. My answer: I chose solving it using mechanical energies

Suppose it reaches ground state after covering distance d,

Equations of mechanical energy;

with friction:

Ek+Epg=Wf+Ek1+Epg1 Wf=-0.77.d.mg.cos(alfa)

mv^2/2+mg.d.sin(alfa)=-0.77dmgcos(alfa)+mV^2/2+mgh(final) divide by m (h final=0 taking ground state when it covers d)

v^2/2+gdsin(alfa)=-0.77gdcos(alfa)+V^2/2--------------------{1}

without friction: Ek+Epg=Ek1+Epg1 (Epg1=0)

mv^2/2+mg.3dsin(alfa)=mV^2/2 divide by m (V after cutting 3d without friction equal V after cutting 1d with friction)

v^2/2+3d.g.sin(alfa)=V^2/2----------------------------{2}

{2} - {1}:... tan(alfa)=0.77.g/2

that gives ALFA=75.155 degree Is it correct?
 
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Ek+Epg=Wf+Ek1+Epg1 Wf=-0.77.d.mg.cos(alfa)

mv^2/2+mg.d.sin(alfa)=-0.77dmgcos(alfa)+mV^2/2+mgh(final) divide by m (h final=0 taking ground state when it covers d)

v^2/2+gdsin(alfa)=-0.77gdcos(alfa)+V^2/2--------------------{1}

without friction: Ek+Epg=Ek1+Epg1 (Epg1=0)

mv^2/2+mg.3dsin(alfa)=mV^2/2 divide by m (V after cutting 3d without friction equal V after cutting 1d with friction)

v^2/2+3d.g.sin(alfa)=V^2/2----------------------------{2}

{2} - {1}:... tan(alfa)=0.77.g/2

that gives ALFA=75.155 degree Is it correct?

There are multiple mistakes in your solution, Are you asked to solve this using energy conservation?
You can basically use equations of motion to solve this
It gave you an equation.
## 3T_{time ~takes~ to ~slide ~without ~friction} = T_{time~ takes ~to ~slide~ with ~friction} ##
Draw a FBD, identify the forces and acquire accelerations of the bodies.

Some algebra will give you the angle, Everytime you arrive at something post your work and we will be here :D
 
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There are multiple mistakes in your solution, Are you asked to solve this using energy conservation?
You can basically use equations of motion to solve this
It gave you an equation.
## 3T_{time ~takes~ to ~slide ~without ~friction} = T_{time~ takes ~to ~slide~ with ~friction} ##
Draw a FBD, identify the forces and acquire accelerations of the bodies.

Some algebra will give you the angle, Everytime you arrive at something post your work and we will be here :D
you mean i must find the time equation for both?
 
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you mean i must find the time equation for both?
Yes :D
Use the equations of motion to find the time.
 
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then it will be with friction
-0.77gcos(alfa)+gsin(alfa)=af
without friction gsin(alfa)=a
delta x= v0t+0.5at^2
t=sqaur root (2.deltax/af) T=sqrrt(2.deltax/a)
3T=t
9T^2=t^2
9af=a
tan(alfa)=9x0.77/8 alfa=40.9
right?
 
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then it will be with friction
-0.77gcos(alfa)+gsin(alfa)=af
without friction gsin(alfa)=a
delta x= v0t+0.5at^2
t=sqaur root (2.deltax/af) T=sqrrt(2.deltax/a)
3T=t
9T^2=t^2
9af=a
tan(alfa)=9x0.77/8 alfa=40.9
right?
Excellent work :).
 
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Related to Penguin on a slide with friction: find the angle of the slide

1. What is the purpose of finding the angle of the slide in relation to the penguin?

The angle of the slide is important because it determines the amount of friction that the penguin will experience while sliding. This information can help us understand the forces acting on the penguin and how it will move down the slide.

2. How is the angle of the slide related to the penguin's weight and the coefficient of friction?

The angle of the slide is directly related to the penguin's weight and the coefficient of friction. As the angle of the slide increases, the force of gravity pulling the penguin down the slide also increases, resulting in a greater amount of friction between the penguin and the slide.

3. What factors can affect the accuracy of determining the angle of the slide?

There are several factors that can affect the accuracy of determining the angle of the slide. These include the surface of the slide (smoothness, material), the weight and shape of the penguin, and any external forces acting on the penguin (wind, other objects on the slide).

4. How can the angle of the slide be calculated?

The angle of the slide can be calculated using the formula tan θ = coefficient of friction. This formula takes into account the weight of the penguin, the coefficient of friction, and the force of gravity acting on the penguin.

5. Why is it important to consider friction when studying the movement of a penguin on a slide?

Friction plays a crucial role in the movement of a penguin on a slide. Without taking into account friction, we cannot accurately predict the speed, direction, and overall movement of the penguin. Considering friction allows us to better understand the forces at play and make more accurate calculations and predictions.

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