Proton + Electron = Neutron?

In summary, the formation of a neutron star involves the process of supernova, which occurs in one second. This process converts protons into neutrons, with the help of electron capture or inverse beta decays. The resulting neutrons cannot decay back due to the Pauli exclusion principle.
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Stephanus
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Dear PF Forum,
I have a question to ask.
Supernovae produce neutron star (or Black Hole).

This is what I summarize from wikipedia.
Proton
Composition: 2 up quarks, 1 down quark
Mass: 1.672621777(74)E-27 kg

Neutron
Composition: 1 up quark, 2 down quarks
Mass: 1.674927351(74)E-27 kg

Electron
Composition: Electron
Mass: 9.10938291(40)×10E-31 kg

1. Is P + e = N? Is it that simple?
Judging by its mass, altough slightly off.
2. Is Up Quark + e = Down Quark?

Thanks for any answer
 
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Stephanus said:
1. Is P + e = N?

No. As you note, p = uud and n = udd, in terms of quarks.

2. Is Up Quark + e = Down Quark?

No. Up and down quarks are both fundamental particles, not composed of other particles, as far as we know.
 
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jtbell said:
No. As you note, p = uud and n = udd, in terms of quarks.
No. Up and down quarks are both fundamental particles, not composed of other particles, as far as we know.

So, what makes neutron star?
Matter is we know it, consist atom. Proton, Neutron, Electron and I read somewhere, there are abundant neutrinos, too. Altough their combined mass are still much less than combined baryon mass in the universe.
So, if there are Proton, Neutron and Electron, and the result is Neutron star, what makes it?

Thanks.
 
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Stephanus said:
So, what makes neutron star?
Mostly neutrons ...

That particles are fundamental does not mean that they cannot be converted into each other. An up quark and an electron may be converted into a down quark and a neutrino by exchanging a W boson. This is what happens in beta decay and when a neutron star is formed (many many many times of course).
 
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Orodruin said:
Mostly neutrons ...

That particles are fundamental does not mean that they cannot be converted into each other. An up quark and an electron may be converted into a down quark and a neutrino by exchanging a W boson. This is what happens in beta decay and when a neutron star is formed (many many many times of course).
Thanks Orodruin for your answer, again.
As I know it. The process of producing neutron star is supernova, which happens in 1 seconds. How long is "beta decay"?

Thanks.
 
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Stephanus said:
As I know it. The process of producing neutron star is supernova, which happens in 1 seconds. How long is "beta decay"?

The exact name of the interaction would be "electron capture" or one of the inverse beta decays. But still time of interaction won't tell you much. An energy approach can help. In particular the interaction is:
[itex] p + e^- \rightarrow n + \nu_e -0.8~MeV[/itex]
This becomes energetically favorable around at the energies/momenta of the electrons when the white dwarf becomes gravitationally unstable to collapse. And by the end of the collapse, the protons in the core have been converted to neutrons. Neutrons then can't decay back because there is an electron/proton atmosphere in a degenerate state and so the resulting electrons/protons from a neutron beta decay can't find any state to exist in (Pauli-block due to Pauli exclusion principle)
 
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What is the difference between a proton and an electron?

A proton is a positively charged subatomic particle found in the nucleus of an atom, while an electron is a negatively charged subatomic particle that orbits the nucleus.

Why do protons and electrons combine to form neutrons?

Protons and electrons combine to form neutrons in order to create a more stable atom. Protons and electrons have opposite charges, and by combining, they can achieve a neutral charge, making the atom more stable.

What is the impact of adding a proton and electron to an atom?

Adding a proton and electron to an atom can change the identity of the atom. If the number of protons changes, the atom becomes a different element. If the number of electrons changes, the atom becomes an ion with a different charge.

Are there any exceptions to the proton + electron = neutron rule?

Yes, there are exceptions. In some cases, a proton and electron can combine to form a particle called a positron, which has the same mass as an electron but a positive charge. Additionally, protons and electrons can also combine to form other subatomic particles, such as mesons and baryons.

How does the combination of protons and electrons affect an atom's atomic mass?

The combination of protons and electrons does not affect an atom's atomic mass. Protons and neutrons are much more massive than electrons, so the addition of an electron does not significantly change the overall mass of an atom.

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