Proving rational function converges from first principles

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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit
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I am confused how they get $$| x - 4 | > \frac{1}{2}$$ from. I have tried deriving that expression from two different methods. Here is the first method:

$$-1\frac{1}{2} < x - 4 < -\frac{1}{2}$$
$$1\frac{1}{2} > -(x - 4) > \frac{1}{2}$$
$$|1\frac{1}{2}| > |-(x - 4)| > |\frac{1}{2}|$$
$$1\frac{1}{2} > |-1||x - 4| > \frac{1}{2}$$
$$1\frac{1}{2} > |x - 4| > \frac{1}{2}$$
Thus $$ |x - 4| > \frac{1}{2}$$

However, I also have an alternative method, but I am unsure why it is not giving the correct expression. Here the second method:

$$-1\frac{1}{2} < x - 4 < -\frac{1}{2}$$
$$|-1\frac{1}{2}| < |x - 4| < |-\frac{1}{2}|$$
$$1\frac{1}{2} < |x - 4| < \frac{1}{2}$$

Does someone please know what I have done wrong?

Thank you - Chiral
 
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ChiralSuperfields said:
I am confused how they get $$| x - 4 | > \frac{1}{2}$$ from.
That is because ##|x-3|<\frac {1}{2}## so ##x## is closer to 3 than it is to 4..
 
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FactChecker said:
That is because ##|x-3|<\frac {1}{2}## so ##x## is closer to 3 than it is to 4..
Thank you for your reply @FactChecker!

Sorry I am still confused. I am trying to understand how they algebraically derive $$|x - 4| > \frac{1}{2}$$

Thanks!
 
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1) You can look on the number line and see it geometrically.
or
2) |x-3| <1/2
=> x-3 < 1/2
=> x-4 < 1/2-1 = -1/2
=> 4-x > 1/2
=> |x-4| > 1/2
 
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FactChecker said:
1) You can look on the number line and see it geometrically.
or
2) |x-3| <1/2
=> x-3 < 1/2
=> x-4 < 1/2-1 = -1/2
=> 4-x > 1/2
=> |x-4| > 1/2
Thank for your reply @FactChecker!

However, I am still confused. Do you please know why you only consider the positive case when you take off the absolute value off x - 3 i.e not $$-(x - 3) < 1/2$$?

Do you also please know whether my two algebraic methods are correct?

Thanks!
 
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ChiralSuperfields said:
$$-1\frac{1}{2} < x - 4 < -\frac{1}{2}$$
$$|-1\frac{1}{2}| < |x - 4| < |-\frac{1}{2}|$$
This is your error. ##x-4 \lt -\frac{1}{2}## does not imply ##|x-4|\lt |-\frac{1}{2}|##.
 
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FactChecker said:
This is your error. ##x-4 \lt -\frac{1}{2}## does not imply ##|x-4|\lt |-\frac{1}{2}|##.
Thank you for your reply @FactChecker!

That is interesting, do you please know why? I took the absolute value of all three sides of the equation from the law of algebra. I thought they would be equivalent since I did the same thing to each side of the equation.

Thanks!
 
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ChiralSuperfields said:
That is interesting, do you please know why? I took the absolute value of all three sides of the equation from the law of algebra. I thought they would be equivalent since I did the same thing to each side of the equation.
These are not equations. When you have a comparison like ##-100 \lt 1##, which is not an equation, you can not just do the same thing to both sides and know that the same comparison still works.
##-100 \lt 1## does not mean that ##|-100 |\lt |1|##.
 
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It there is equality, then any function applied to equal things will give equal answers. If ##x1=x2##, then ##f(x1)=f(x2)##. Otherwise, the function ##f()## is not well defined. But if there is some other relationship between ##x1## and ##x2## different from equality, that can not be guarantied.
 
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