Question regarding if curvature is not constant

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of curvature in 2-spheres and 3-spheres, and how it is determined whether a space is flat or curved. It is explained that for 2-D surfaces, the curvature tensor only has one independent component which is the same as a scalar. However, for 3-D and 4-D surfaces, the curvature tensor has multiple independent components. It is also mentioned that for flat surfaces, all components of the curvature tensor are zero, while for curved surfaces, they are not. The conversation concludes by discussing the relative nature of flatness and curvedness.
  • #1
Apashanka
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For 2-sphere it is having a curvature of k=1/R ,where R is the radius of the 2-sphere and to make it more generalised we treat the kR as the curvature which is always +1 and is independent of it's radius.
My question is how do we treat the curvature term for 3-sphere ,
And it the curvature term is not constt. unlike the 2-sphere ,in general how do we treat those cases and how it's functional form is determined??

Thank you
 
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Curvature in general is not a scalar, it's a tensor, the Riemann curvature tensor. It just happens that for a 2-D surface the curvature tensor has only one independent component, so it's the same as a scalar. But for a 3-D manifold, the curvature tensor has 6 independent components, and for a 4-D manifold (like spacetime in General Relativity) it has 20 independent components.

Manifolds with constant curvature are manifolds where all of the curvature tensor components are constant, i.e., the same everywhere.
 
  • #3
PeterDonis said:
Curvature in general is not a scalar, it's a tensor, the Riemann curvature tensor. It just happens that for a 2-D surface the curvature tensor has only one independent component, so it's the same as a scalar. But for a 3-D manifold, the curvature tensor has 6 independent components, and for a 4-D manifold (like spacetime in General Relativity) it has 20 independent components.

Manifolds with constant curvature are manifolds where all of the curvature tensor components are constant, i.e., the same everywhere.
Ok that means that for flat 2-D surface and for flat 3-D surface the Reimann curvature tensor components is 0 but for 2-sphere and 3-sphere the Reimann curvature tensor components are not all zero ,that's how it is determined that the space is flat or curved??
 
  • #4
Apashanka said:
that means that for flat 2-D surface and for flat 3-D surface the Reimann curvature tensor components is 0 but for 2-sphere and 3-sphere the Reimann curvature tensor components are not all zero ,that's how it is determined that the space is flat or curved??

That's correct, "flat" means all components of the Riemann tensor are zero, "curved" means they're not.
 
  • #5
PeterDonis said:
That's correct, "flat" means all components of the Riemann tensor are zero, "curved" means they're not.
Ok sir thanks a lot.
That means sir Reimann tensor is the parameter which is used to know a surface is flat or curved.
But sir flat or curved aren't they are relative term (e.g flatness or curvedness is measured with respect to some thing)??
Am I right sir??
 
  • #6
Apashanka said:
flat or curved aren't they are relative term

No.
 
  • #7
Apashanka said:
will you please explain elaborately

No. What is hard to understand about my answer? If you think the answer should be different than the one I gave, then you should explain why you think that.
 

1. What is curvature?

Curvature is a measure of how much a surface or object deviates from being flat. It is a mathematical concept used to describe the shape of an object or the path of a curve.

2. How is curvature calculated?

Curvature can be calculated using various mathematical formulas, depending on the type of surface or object being measured. In general, it involves determining the change in direction of a curve or surface at different points.

3. What does it mean if curvature is not constant?

If curvature is not constant, it means that the object or surface is not uniformly curved and may have varying degrees of curvature at different points. This can indicate a more complex or irregular shape.

4. Can an object have negative curvature?

Yes, an object can have negative curvature. This means that it curves in the opposite direction compared to a positively curved object. Some examples of objects with negative curvature include saddles and hyperbolic surfaces.

5. How is curvature related to the concept of spacetime?

Einstein's theory of general relativity states that gravity is caused by the curvature of spacetime. The presence of matter and energy can cause spacetime to bend, resulting in objects following curved paths. Therefore, the concept of curvature is crucial in understanding the behavior of gravity and the nature of our universe.

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