Questions about friction losses in an electric motor

In summary, bearing friction losses can have a significant impact on the power output (force * speed) of an electric motor when an electric motor is moving / lifting objects.
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1) What is friction loss / are friction losses?

2) How can it be determined / measured / calculated / figured out?

3) How does it affect the power output (force * speed) of an electric motor when an electric motor is moving / lifting objects? Why does it have such affects?
 
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What effort did you make to answer these basic questions for yourself before asking others to invest their effort ?
 
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In short, two sources to consider are parts rubbing against each other, and interaction of air with the moving parts.
Steve Mould has a nice video about sources of friction losses in a fidget spinner.
 
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As ScottDave mentioned, windage is always present unless the motor runs in a vacuum. The other big friction source is the bearings. Even the very best bearings always have some friction.

As to how to see/measure the effect of friction, assuming we are talking about an induction motor, measure the no-load speed. With no external load, and in the absence of friction, the no-load speed would be synchronous speed. Since friction is always present, the speed difference between synchronous speed and no-load speed is the evidence of friction losses.
 
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The other big friction source is the bearings. Even the very best bearings always have some friction.
This article, Wind 'em Up and Let 'em Go, from ecmweb.com give three things concerning bearing friction losses.
Over lubrication of bearings will increase friction losses and shorten bearing life.

Mixing incompatible greases will increase friction losses and impair lubrication.

Ensure that bearings have the same internal clearance as original bearings. Decreasing the clearances could increase the friction losses.

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What effort did you make to answer these basic questions for yourself before asking others to invest their effort ?
Ditto. But for the other readers, I invested a little effort. :redface:
 
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1. What is friction in an electric motor?

Friction in an electric motor refers to the resistance that occurs when two surfaces come into contact and rub against each other. This resistance can cause a loss of energy and efficiency in the motor.

2. How does friction affect the performance of an electric motor?

Friction can cause losses in an electric motor by converting some of the energy from the motor into heat, resulting in a decrease in efficiency. It can also cause wear and tear on the motor's components, leading to potential malfunctions and breakdowns.

3. What are the main sources of friction losses in an electric motor?

The main sources of friction losses in an electric motor are the bearings, brushes, and other moving parts within the motor. These components can create friction as they come into contact with each other, resulting in energy losses.

4. How can friction losses in an electric motor be reduced?

Friction losses in an electric motor can be reduced by using high-quality bearings and lubricants, ensuring proper alignment of the motor's components, and reducing the load on the motor through proper sizing and design.

5. What are the consequences of high friction losses in an electric motor?

High friction losses in an electric motor can result in decreased efficiency, increased energy consumption, and potential damage to the motor's components. It can also lead to overheating and premature failure of the motor if not addressed.

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