Sign convention problem in momentum calulations

In summary, this conversation discusses a collision between particles A and B, where A moves to the left after the collision and B moves to the right. Calculation of the velocity of both particles reveals that v is 1.6x10^8.
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Fariaz Haque
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Homework Statement


Particle A has a mass of 1kg and velocity 2x10^8m/s to the right and collides with a stationary particle B that has a mass of 4kg. after the collision, particle A moves to the left with a velocity(v) and particle B moves to the right with a velocity of 1x10^7 m/s. calcuate the value of 'v'.
i get a value of 1.6x10^8 for v but shouldn't it be -1.6x10^8 as it is moving to the left?

The thing is, in other collisions where two objects moving towards each other collide and then move apart after the collision, the answer justifies the direction just fine. for example...

An example: Particle C has a mass of 1kg and velocity 2x10^8 m/s to the right and collides with particle D that has a mass of 4kg and is moving to the left at 1.5x10^8 m/s. after the collision, particle C moves to the left with a velocity(v) and particle D moves to the right with a velocity of 2x10^7 m/s. calcuate the value of 'v'.
solution: (2x10^8 x 1) + [4 x (-1.5x10^8) ] = (1x v) + (4x 2x10^7)
v= -0.48x10^9(here the answer justifies the direction)

Homework Equations

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momentum before collision= momentum after collision

The Attempt at a Solution


momentum before collision= momentum after collision
(2x10^8 x 1) + (4x0) = (1xv) + (1x10^7 x 4)
v= 1.6x10^8

 
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Fariaz Haque said:
i get a value of 1.6x10^8 for v ...

This looks like a relativistic collision because the projectile particle travels at (2/3)c. Are you studying relativity?
 
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kuruman said:
This looks like a relativistic collision because the projectile particle travels at (2/3)c. Are you studying relativity?

nope... just a simple momentum question that was given at school...
 
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Fariaz Haque said:
i get a value of 1.6x10^8 for v
Quite so. Both particles will move to the right. There must be an error in the question.
 
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haruspex said:
Quite so. Both particles will move to the right. There must be an error in the question.

Indeed. Asked my teacher today and verified the problem! :)
 
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Context.

Left at 7m/s
Left, at -7m/s (note comma)

can mean the same thing. The first one is 7m/s leftwards, the second is -7m/s along an implied left-to-right horizontal axis (x) - the "left" is semi-redundant.

On the other hand proofreaders don't get paid much, so best not to make them work too hard if it can be avoided.
 
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1. What is a sign convention problem in momentum calculations?

A sign convention problem in momentum calculations is a situation where there is confusion or disagreement about the direction of a momentum vector. This can occur when different reference frames or coordinate systems are used, or when there is a lack of clarity about the positive and negative directions in a given system.

2. How is a sign convention problem resolved in momentum calculations?

To resolve a sign convention problem in momentum calculations, it is important to clearly define the coordinate system being used and establish a consistent direction for positive and negative values. It may also be helpful to use diagrams or vector notation to clearly indicate the direction and magnitude of momentum vectors.

3. What are the consequences of a sign convention problem in momentum calculations?

A sign convention problem in momentum calculations can lead to incorrect results and a misunderstanding of the physical situation being studied. This can be especially problematic in complex systems where the direction of momentum vectors is critical to understanding the behavior of objects.

4. How can one avoid sign convention problems in momentum calculations?

To avoid sign convention problems in momentum calculations, it is important to clearly establish and communicate the chosen sign convention before beginning any calculations. It may also be helpful to double check calculations and diagrams to ensure that all vectors are correctly labeled and in the correct direction.

5. Can a sign convention problem occur in all types of momentum calculations?

Yes, a sign convention problem can occur in any type of momentum calculation, including linear and angular momentum. It is important to carefully consider the reference frame and coordinate system being used in order to avoid any confusion or disagreement about the direction of momentum vectors.

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