Simple demonstration with real, rational and integers

In summary, the conversation discusses how to prove the existence of a number ##m## that satisfies the inequality ##\alpha - \frac{m}{n} \leq \frac{1}{2n}## for any given ##\alpha## and ##n##. The approach is to rearrange the inequality and choose an appropriate ##m##, such as the integer part of ##\alpha \cdot n##. The conversation also mentions that the choice of ##m## does not need to be as close as possible, as long as it satisfies the condition.
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Homework Statement


Let ##\alpha \in \mathbb{R}## and ##n \in \mathbb{N}##. Show that exists a number ##m \in \mathbb{Z}## such that ##\alpha - \frac {m}{n} \leq \frac{1}{2n}## (1).

The Attempt at a Solution


If I take ##\alpha= [\alpha] +(\alpha)## with ##[\alpha]=m## (=the integer part) and ##(\alpha)=\frac{1}{2n}##(=the fractional part) I must have an equality in (1). Substituting, I obtain ##m(n-1)=0## and for ##n=1## I can always find a solution to the problem. Is this demonstration correct? How can I find a more general one?
 
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It looks to be it states: given any alpha & n, can you always find an m which satisfies it. I don't think you choose alpha in advance.
 
  • #3
I'm not sure what you've done there. The usual approach is to take the inequality ##\alpha -\frac{m}{n} \leq \frac{1}{2n}## and transform it until we get a condition on ##m##. That is ##m## on one side, the rest on the other. Now chose an ##m## which always satisfies this condition and write all steps from there on backwards to the condition you want to prove. Since ##\alpha## and ##n## are given, we only need a small enough or big enough ##m## to be chosen.

Long explanation short: Don't bother about the choice of ##m## as long as you don't know what it has to provide.
 
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Thanks for the reply.
So, rearranging I have ##m \geq \alpha n - \frac{1}{2}##.

Now I have to choose m. I tried different values of ##\alpha ,n## and it seems that the right choice of m is ## m=\lfloor{\alpha \cdot n}\rfloor## (=integer part).
 
  • #5
Don't bother ##\alpha## and ##n##. They are given and cannot be chosen. Only ##m## is up to your choice. And don't try to estimate as close as possible, there is no need to do so. It won't be rewarded in this example. The situation is a different one, if you try to estimate numerical calculations or the length of algorithms, but here it isn't needed. I took ##m=\lceil \alpha \cdot n \rceil## so I saved an additional thought on what happens at exactly a difference of ##0.5##. You could even chose ##m=10\cdot |\alpha n|##, it won't matter here.

Anyway, it is correct. Now you have to write down ##m = \lceil \alpha n \rceil \geq \alpha n \geq \alpha n - \frac{1}{2} \Rightarrow \ldots ## and so on, until the last line is ##\alpha -\frac{m}{n} \leq \frac{1}{2n}\,##.
 
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1. What is a simple demonstration with real, rational, and integers?

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