Solving for Betty's Force in a 2-D Tug of War

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In summary, the problem involves a two-dimensional tug-of-war with Alex, Betty, and Charles pulling horizontally on an automobile tire. The tire remains stationary despite the three pulls, with Alex pulling with a force of 211 N and Charles pulling with a force of 181 N. Part (a) of the problem asks for the magnitude of Betty's force if Charles pulls in the direction shown in the picture. Using the equation Fb= -fa-Fc and finding the angle of fa to be 138 degrees, we can solve for the magnitude of Betty's force to be approximately 321.60 N. Part (b) asks for the other possible direction for equilibrium, where we must find an angle theta that yields the same cosine value
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Homework Statement


in a two-dimensional tug-of-war, Alex, Betty, and Charles pull horizontally on an automobile tire at the angles shown in the picture. The tire remains stationary in spite of the three pulls. Alex pulls with force of magnitude 211 N, and Charles pulls with force of magnitude 181 N. Note that the direction of is not given. What is the magnitude of Betty's force if Charles pulls in (a) the direction drawn in the picture or (b) the other possible direction for equilibrium?

** I got part a correct but i just do not understand what part b is looking


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for part a i used Fb= -fa-Fc
found angle of fa = 180-42= 138
fby=-fay-fcy
fbsin(-90)=-fasin138-fcsintheta
then did same thing with x components to get angle theta= 29.97 then plugged that angle into formula -fb=-(211N0(sin138)-181N(sin 29.97)
= 321.60 N

I understand that but how do i do the other possible direction? The question does not even make sense to me

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wbetting said:

Homework Statement


in a two-dimensional tug-of-war, Alex, Betty, and Charles pull horizontally on an automobile tire at the angles shown in the picture. The tire remains stationary in spite of the three pulls. Alex pulls with force of magnitude 211 N, and Charles pulls with force of magnitude 181 N. Note that the direction of is not given. What is the magnitude of Betty's force if Charles pulls in (a) the direction drawn in the picture or (b) the other possible direction for equilibrium?

** I got part a correct but i just do not understand what part b is looking


Homework Equations



for part a i used Fb= -fa-Fc
found angle of fa = 180-42= 138
fby=-fay-fcy
fbsin(-90)=-fasin138-fcsintheta
then did same thing with x components to get angle theta= 29.97
This is good
then plugged that angle into formula -fb=-(211N0(sin138)-181N(sin 29.97)
= 321.60 N
your equation is good but your math is off, run those numbers again
I understand that but how do i do the other possible direction? The question does not even make sense to me
when you summed forces in the x direction, you got theta = 29.97 degrees, yes, but there is also another angle for theta that yields the same cosine value as cos 29.97...what is that angle (hint, in 4th quadrant).
 

1. What is the "2-d tug of war problem"?

The "2-d tug of war problem" is a mathematical and physics-based problem that involves two teams pulling on opposite ends of a rope in a two-dimensional plane. The goal is to determine which team will win based on the forces and angles involved.

2. How is the "2-d tug of war problem" different from a traditional tug of war?

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