Solving the Rotating Wire Problem

In summary, a bead moves along a circular wire hoop that rotates with a constant angular velocity. The bead equilibrium position and frequency of small oscillations are found by solving Lagrange's equation of motion.
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Homework Statement



A circular wire hoop rotates with constant angular velocity ! about a vertical diameter. A small bead moves, without friction, along the hoop. Find the equilibrium position of the particle and calculate the frequency of small oscillations about this position.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Let's take our reference inertial frame as a spherical co-ordinate system whose axis is along the axis of rotation of the who and whose origin is at the centre of the hoop.
Then position of M can be given by r, ## \theta, \phi ##.
Constraint: r= R,
## \dot \phi = \omega ## , constant.
There are two generalised coordinates ## \phi ## and ## \theta ##.

L = T - U

## T = \frac 1 2 mR^2 ( {\dot \theta}^2 + \sin ^2 \theta {\dot \phi}^2) ##
Taking U = 0 at the origin, U = mgR ## \cos \theta ##
So, L = ## \frac 1 2 mR^2 ( {\dot \theta}^2 + \sin ^2 \theta {\dot \phi}^2 ) - mgR ## ## \cos \theta ##

Lagrange's equation of motion gives,
## \ddot \theta = \frac g R \sin {\theta} + \sin {\theta}~ \cos { \theta}~{ \dot \phi}^2 ##

At eqbm. ## \ddot \theta = 0 ##
## \theta = 0, \Pi , \cos {\theta} = \frac {-g} { \omega^2 R} ##

What to do next?
 
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Pushoam said:
What to do next?
Rewrite your equation of motion in terms of a small angular departure from equilibrium and see if you can bring the equation into the form of a harmonic oscillator.
Let ##\theta \rightarrow \theta_0+\alpha##, where ##\theta_0 = \arccos(-g/(\omega^2 R))## and expand the EOM for small values of ##\alpha##. Don't forget that ##\sin \theta \cos \theta = \sin(2\theta)/2##.
 
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Where are you measuring ##\theta## from? If ##\theta=0## is supposed to be when the bead is at the bottom of the loop, then the sign of ##U## is wrong.
 
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vela said:
Where are you measuring ##\theta## from? If ##\theta=0## is supposed to be when the bead is at the bottom of the loop, then the sign of ##U## is wrong.
It all makes sense if ##\theta## is measured from the top. Then the equilibrium angle is (as it should) below the horizontal diameter and its cosine is negative. U is zero when ##\theta = \pi/2##.
 
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Yeah, I know. It's just that most people use the convention that ##\theta=0## is the (stable) equilibrium position when the hoop isn't spinning. Thought it was worth making sure.
 
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I solved it. Thank you all for the guidance.
 

1. What is the Rotating Wire Problem?

The Rotating Wire Problem is a scientific experiment that involves a wire that is rotated at a high speed and then released. The wire will then form a loop due to the centrifugal force acting on it.

2. What causes the wire to form a loop?

The centrifugal force, also known as the outward force, causes the wire to form a loop. This force is created when an object is rotating at a constant speed and acts perpendicular to the direction of motion.

3. How can the Rotating Wire Problem be solved?

The Rotating Wire Problem can be solved by using the principles of centripetal force and angular momentum. By calculating the centripetal force acting on the wire and its angular momentum, scientists can determine the shape and size of the loop formed by the wire.

4. What real-life applications does the Rotating Wire Problem have?

The Rotating Wire Problem has various real-life applications, such as in the design of roller coasters, centrifuges, and gyroscopes. It is also used in understanding the behavior of objects in space and in the study of fluid dynamics.

5. What are some challenges in solving the Rotating Wire Problem?

Some challenges in solving the Rotating Wire Problem include accurately measuring the speed of rotation, accounting for friction and air resistance, and considering the stiffness and material properties of the wire. These factors can affect the shape and size of the loop formed by the wire.

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