Space expanding or Time speeding up? Part 2

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of the universe beginning with a singularity and then expanding, and how this affects the singularity. It also brings up the idea of time speeding up and how it may be simpler to explain than space expanding. However, there are still unresolved questions and unknowns in both theories. The conversation also mentions the limitations of current models and the need for further research and evidence.
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CosmologyHobbyist
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Two questions, underlined:

I have read that the universe began with a singularity.
Then space began expanding.
How can space expanding affect a singularity? Has this conundrum been resolved?

If time was speeding up, is would act the same as space expanding, but it would affect a singularity, bringing the temperature down. This would mean time pre-exists the universe.
Many tests have concluded that space is not actually made out of "anything", so how can it expand?
But time is unknown in the properties of its constituents, so may have a possibility of speeding up.
In these two examples, time speeding up seems simpler, more elegant than space expanding. Is this correct? Or does it bring its own complications?
 
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CosmologyHobbyist said:
Two questions, underlined:

I have read that the universe began with a singularity.
Then space began expanding.
How can space expanding affect a singularity? Has this conundrum been resolved?

Most Big Bang models do not actually include singularity. They can describe points in time very close to it, but not singularity itself, since infinite energy density, temperature, curvature etc are not mathematically tractable.

It's like a mathematician talking about (0, t] set of real numbers. The set has numbers arbitrarily close to zero, but zero itself is not in that set.

If you ask "so what do Big Bang models say about t=0 moment?", they usually presume that before you can extrapolate to t=0, new, currently unknown physics changes the picture, and nonsensical infinitely dense state never existed.
 
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How "time speeding up" theory explains CMB?
Also, rotational curves of galaxies were analyzed already some 40 years ago, I think. No slowdown in distant galaxies was found.
 
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CosmologyHobbyist said:
I have read that the universe began with a singularity.
Then space began expanding.

This is a highly idealized, notional model that is not the one that is actually used by cosmologists. The earliest state of the universe of which we have firm evidence is a hot, dense, rapidly expanding state that, according to our best current model, was what came out at the end of inflation. But we don't know how inflation started or what came before that (we have various speculative models that we are only in the very early stages of trying to test).

CosmologyHobbyist said:
If time was speeding up

Unless you can find an acceptable reference (textbook or peer-reviewed paper) that gives such a model (I'm not aware of any), it's out of bounds for discussion here. We can't discuss speculations that don't have a testable model.
 

1. How do we know that space is expanding?

Scientists have observed the phenomenon of redshift, where light from distant galaxies appears to be stretched to longer wavelengths, indicating that these galaxies are moving away from us. This suggests that the universe is expanding and that space itself is stretching.

2. Can space expand faster than the speed of light?

No, according to Einstein's theory of general relativity, the speed of light is the cosmic speed limit. Therefore, space cannot expand faster than the speed of light.

3. Is time speeding up as space expands?

No, time does not speed up as space expands. However, the rate of expansion of the universe can affect the passage of time in different regions. This is known as time dilation and is a key concept in Einstein's theory of relativity.

4. What is the role of dark energy in the expansion of space?

Dark energy is a mysterious force that is thought to be responsible for the accelerating expansion of the universe. Its exact nature is still not fully understood, but it is believed to make up about 68% of the total energy in the universe.

5. Will space continue to expand forever?

It is currently believed that the expansion of space will continue indefinitely, but the rate of expansion may change over time. Some theories suggest that the expansion may eventually slow down or even reverse, leading to a "Big Crunch" where the universe collapses back in on itself.

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