Statics: When the reactions depend on the displacements

In summary, the conversation discusses problems where there is a dependency between the reactions at the supports and the displacements due to deformations, which cannot be solved using traditional statics and resistance of materials tools. This type of problem is known as statically undetermined and can be solved by finding the relation between internal axial forces and deformation. One book that covers this topic is Roark's Formulas for Stress and Strain, and techniques for analyzing these problems can be found in textbooks on Advanced Mechanics of Materials. The specific case of a beam under combined axial and transverse loading can be solved using the displacement formula from Roark's book. However, there is still a need for further research and insight on this topic.
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When the reactions depend on the displacements the problem cannot be solved with the typical tools from statics. What tools should I use?
In some problems, there is a dependency between the reactions at the supports and the displacements due to the deformations. In such cases, typical tools from statics and resistance of materials cannot be used. I believe that is because one of the main assumptions is that only very small deformations will happen.
What is the name for problems where this dependency exists? Do you recommend a particular book about them?

Let's start with a simple example.

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This problem is statically undetermined because the 3 equations of equilibrium are not enough to find the reactions but that's not the point. The point is that those rods can only work axially because it's a truss with forces only in the articulations so to counteract ##{\color{Red} F}## that has a vertical component (and only a vertical component in this simple example) they will need to change their orientation so that the axial internal forces have a vertical component too.

The problem can be solved by finding the relation between the internal axial forces in the beam and the deformation of the system.
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Now using the equilibrium of vertical forces at the joint B it is possible to find the reactions, internal forces, elongation, and the angle the system will adopt.
##\sum F_y=0 \rightarrow -F+N_{1_y}+N_{2_y}=0 \left \{ Symmetry \rightarrow N_{1_y}=N_{2_y}=N_y;N_y=Nsin(\alpha);N=k\Delta L\right \} \rightarrow##
##\rightarrow F=2k\Delta L\sin\alpha##
That's still not enough because in that equation we don't know 2 variables ##(\Delta L, \alpha)##. However, it is possible to link them.
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##(L+\Delta L)\cos\alpha = L\rightarrow \Delta L = \frac{L}{\cos\alpha}-L##

Then, by combining the two previous equations, it is possible to have only 1 variable to solve.
##F=2k\Delta L\sin\alpha\rightarrow F=2k(\frac{L}{\cos\alpha}-L)\sin\alpha\rightarrow \frac{F}{2KL}=\tan\alpha-\sin\alpha##
I'm pretty sure that trigonometric equation cannot be solved analytically so I will leave it there. The point is that it can be solved and the system is fully defined. As a sanity check, as ##\alpha \rightarrow 0## it seems like the equation fails. However, if ##\alpha \rightarrow 0## is because then ##k\rightarrow \infty ## so we have a ##\infty \times 0## situation which can spit ##F## as a result.

So the problem is solvable. However, the procedure is very different when comparing it with the linear problems we typically see in books on Static and Resistance of Materials. Even for this simple case, I'm not certain I could solve it if I got rid of all the symmetries. Is there an established way to solve these types of problems/structures?

Another case that could be interesting to solve is the following
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I don't know if that's related to how the formulas for buckling are derived but I doubt it because when checking for buckling, at no point the reaction moment ##M_{A_z}## is considered. Is this maybe an alternative way of checking for buckling? The point is that as ##\delta x ## increases, the reaction ##M_{A_z}## needs to grow as well to compensate ##F \delta x## so we have a problem where again the reactions depend on the displacements. I tried solving this problem with no luck so far.
Do you know the standard procedure to solve it? Or books that cover this?
 

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This is a case of a beam under combined axial and transverse loading (Beam-columns). The displacement formula for your specific case can be found in Roark's Formulas for Stress and Strain. Techniques for analyzing these types of problems can be found in textbooks on Advanced Mechanics of Materials (e.g., Cook ang Young's book)
 
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T1m0 said:
This is a case of a beam under combined axial and transverse loading (Beam-columns). The displacement formula for your specific case can be found in Roark's Formulas for Stress and Strain. Techniques for analyzing these types of problems can be found in textbooks on Advanced Mechanics of Materials (e.g., Cook ang Young's book)
I just read Chapter 12 in Roark's and at no point, it mentions the displacements and how the reactions depend on it.
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I'm sure the information in there is of big importance but it's not what I'm looking for.

In Chapter 15 I could find some information more directly related to the original post.
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After reading the chapter I still do not know how to solve the problem but at least now I know the name of the area that covers this kind of thing.
I'll keep reading about it. Maybe, in the meantime, someone can provide some insight about what I posted or specific references to study.
 
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In Roark's book, there should be a section on "Beams Under Simultaneous Axial and Transverse Loading." If P is the axial load and W is the transverse load at the end, then the transverse end deflection is

y=W/(k*P)*(tan(kL)-kL) where k=(P/(EI))^(1/2) and L is the length of the beam.
 
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I just checked section 8.7 BEAMS UNDER SIMULTANEOUS AXIAL AND TRANSVERSE LOADING and I couldn't find the formula you mention.
Are we maybe seeing different editions?
Anyways, I find Roark's book very difficult to understand. All the formulas are cramped in there without much background or explanatory pictures. It's a book for formulas after all so I understand it's got a specific purpose. It's just not aligned with what I'm looking for.
I'll try to find a book about Elastic Stability to give it a shot and try to understand the math behind the concept. Timoshenko seems to have a book about it but it's too hard for me to understand. I'll have to try a different source where the explanations are more chewed for the reader.
 
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I agree that Roark's book is not very useful for learning analysis techniques. If you want to ease into the subject, I suggest that you start with a basic book on Mechanics of Materials. Typically, there will be a chapter on bucking of beams where there will be a section on columns with eccentric axial loads. This will not correspond directly to your case, but the analysis technique used there is similar to what you will need to address the problem that you posed.
 
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1. What is statics?

Statics is a branch of mechanics that deals with the study of forces acting on stationary objects or systems. It is concerned with the analysis of the equilibrium of forces and moments on a body.

2. What are the key principles of statics?

The key principles of statics include the concept of equilibrium, which states that the sum of all forces and moments acting on a body must equal zero for it to be in a state of rest or constant motion. Other principles include the concept of rigid bodies, the use of free-body diagrams, and the application of Newton's laws of motion.

3. What is meant by "reactions depend on the displacements" in statics?

This refers to the fact that the reactions or forces acting on a body are dependent on the displacements or movements of the body. In other words, the reactions are influenced by the changes in position or orientation of the body.

4. How do you solve problems involving reactions that depend on displacements?

To solve these types of problems, you would first need to identify the forces and moments acting on the body, as well as the points of support or constraints. Then, you can use equations of equilibrium and the concept of rigid bodies to determine the unknown reactions. Finally, you would need to check the solution for consistency and accuracy.

5. What are some real-life applications of statics?

Statics has many practical applications in engineering, architecture, and other fields. Some examples include the design and analysis of structures such as bridges and buildings, the study of forces on machines and vehicles, and the calculation of loads and stresses on various components in a system.

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