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In "my" model it does. It's homogenous so it all has the same density at all times.VikingF said:Ok, that was my point.
But all matter doesn't necessary come from the same Big Bang, does it?
In "my" model it does. It's homogenous so it all has the same density at all times.VikingF said:Ok, that was my point.
But all matter doesn't necessary come from the same Big Bang, does it?
EL said:In "my" model it does. It's homogenous so it all has the same density at all times.
But it didn't come from one point. It came from a state of very high (infinite) density, i.e. the Big Bang singularity. The matter was all over the universe already right after Big Bang.VikingF said:How can something that is spread all over in an infinity come from one singularity/one point? If it has expanded at the speed of light (or so) in 13.7 billion years, it must have been expanded to a certain (finite) area?
EL said:But it didn't come from one point. It came from a state of very high (infinite) density, i.e. the Big Bang singularity. The matter was all over the universe already right after Big Bang.
Hehe, yeah, stick to your crosscountry skiing instead... :tongue2:VikingF said:Ok. I see now. I had missed that point. (Norwegians, you know...)
EL said:But it didn't come from one point. It came from a state of very high (infinite) density, i.e. the Big Bang singularity. The matter was all over the universe already right after Big Bang.
If EL will pardon me, I'll try and give you my spin in this.Eric England said:Are you saying the Big Bang singularity, is the same as the moment right after?
Jorrie said:Does this make any sense?
No.Eric England said:Isn't the "big bang" another way of saying time, space, and mass = 0?
Risking another warning from a moderator for being "not helpful" or "antagonistic" here, but what on Earth are you talking about?Chronos said:It would, I think, be fair to say that empty space arose as a consequence of matter. Matter had issues and needed time to think. So it created space to separate itself from its brethren - then it inflated space to buy some additional time. This impish idea created entropy, which can never be decreased so long as time, another poorly thought out idea, continues to exist.
EL said:"Big Bang is the scientific theory of how the universe emerged from a tremendously dense and hot state about 13.7 billion years ago." See more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang .
Chronos said:It would, I think, be fair to say that empty space arose as a consequence of matter. Matter had issues and needed time to think. So it created space to separate itself from its brethren - then it inflated space to buy some additional time. This impish idea created entropy, which can never be decreased so long as time, another poorly thought out idea, continues to exist.
I do not understand what you are trying to say. Could you state your question more clearly please?Eric England said:Plank time says space, time, and mass is > 0... doesn't it?
So what = 0?
EL said:I do not understand what you are trying to say. Could you state your question more clearly please?
0 of what?So doesn't the big bang = 0?
What is "the 0"?Doesn't the "before" the big bang have nothing to do with time, space, or mass? Isn't it a question of what the 0 is "inside" of?
Planck time is a certain amount of time. How could it say anything?Eric England said:Plank time says space, time, and mass is > 0... doesn't it?
I simply do not understand anything about this question.So what = 0?