Thermodynamics - Saturated Mixture to Superheated Vapor

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a rigid tank containing a two-phase liquid-vapor mixture of H2O. The initial temperature and quality are given, and heat transfer occurs until the temperature reaches a specified value. The process is to be shown on a p-v diagram, and the mass of vapor in the final pressure needs to be determined. The conversation goes on to discuss how to determine why the substance becomes a "superheated vapor" in phase 2, and various methods and equations are discussed to help understand and solve the problem. Finally, the individual expresses gratitude for the help provided by others.
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Homework Statement


A rigid tank contains 5 lb of a two-phase, liquid-vapor mixture of H2O, initially at T = 260 F with a quality of 0.6. Heat transfer to the contents of the tank occurs until the temperature is T = 320 F. Show the process on a p-v diagram. Determine the mass of vapor, in lb, initially in the tank in the final pressure, in lbf/in^2.


Homework Equations



V = Vf + X ( VG - VF

Various thermodynamic charts found in any thermodynamics book.

The Attempt at a Solution



I can get the first part of the question fine. I took a look at a solution for this problem, and they randomly make the statement that while in phase 1 the mixture is a saturated vapor, in phase 2 the substance is a superheated vapor. This is what I need help with. I am not exactly sure why the substance is a superheated vapor in phase 2.

I understand that since the the system is within a "rigid tank" that the specific volume must remain constant between the two phases. I've calculated the specific volume of phase one (using the quality, temperature, and the specific volume of both fluid and gas) and I've come up with V = 7.0688 ft3/lb. I know that the specific volume must be the same in phase two, but I do not have a Quality in which to calculate it.

I used the same quality from phase 1 (although I know it would not be the same) and I've also used an assumptive quality of 1 (MAX). In both cases the specific volume of phase two is less than that of phase 1. Is this why I can justify in calling the substance a "superheated vapor in phase 2?

This is my first time posting here, I hope I am not breaking any of your rules. I'm not looking for the answer to the question, I just need help understanding how I can determine why the substance became a "superheated vapor."

Thank you.
 
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Hi, and welcome to the board.
Your relevant equations are fine and I agree you will need your steam table. I also agree with your calculation for specific volume = 7.0688 (though my database provides a very slightly different number, 7.0695) so all that is fine.

It might help to consider density instead of specific volume. Either is fine of course, one is just the inverse of the other. But for density, you can think of there being so much mass in a given volume. So instead of a specific volume of 7.0688, consider that a density of 0.14147 lbm/ft3.

For a temperature of 320 F, saturated gas has a density of aproximately 0.203 lbm/ft3. So if it were saturated at that temperature (pressure is roughly 89.6 psia) then you would have more water in the container than you originally had. Since there's less mass in the vessel at 320 F than there is for saturated vapor at 320 F, do you see any way for the water to be saturated? Note that if the quality of saturated vapor is 1.0 and a density of 0.203, then decreasing the quality (ie: decreasing from 1.0 to something between 0 and 1) will only increase density.

If the density is less than the saturated vapor line, is that superheated or does something else happen?

If it is superheated, then how can you use the steam tables to find the temperature?

Hopefully this helps answer your question even if it doesn't answer the question that the problem poses directly. The final product is superheated of course, and you need to consider how to show that on a p-v diagram. Part of that will be to find the pressure and temperature where the water has a quality of 1.0. Have you determined that state yet?
 
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Mr.RGerk said:

Homework Statement


I just need help understanding how I can determine why the substance became a "superheated vapor."

Thank you.

Look at the p-v diagram for water. Go to the isotherm for T = 260F and follow it until it flattens out in the mixed-phase region. Stop when the quality is 60%. Now, how do you move on the chart to correspond with heating the mixture until T= 320F?
 
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I just want to thank you both tremendously for your help with this. I spent a lot of time mulling over what you've said and it is pretty clear to me. It isn't very clear when looking at it at first, but it needs a little intuition and logic. Simply enough, the volume needs to remain constant because of the rigid tank, but V1 =/= V2 if V2 remains a saturated vapor.

The T - V diagram is a clearer way of visualizing it. If I draw a vertical line (since V remains constant) the position 2 will fall out of the bounds of the saturated vapor and into those of superheated vapor.

I also found an easier way of evaluating these things. According to a diagram I found online, If V1 < V2f, it will be supercooled liquid. For V2f < V1 < V2g it will be saturated mixture. For V1 > V2g it will be superheated vapor. I haven't tried this method out on any other examples, but if it works it will definitely help simplify things for me. Thanks again guys, I really appreciate it.
 
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I would like to provide some clarification on the concept of saturated mixture and superheated vapor. A saturated mixture is a two-phase system where both liquid and vapor phases exist in equilibrium at a given temperature and pressure. This means that the system is at its boiling point and any additional heat added will result in a phase change (either more liquid turning into vapor or vice versa). In this case, the substance is a saturated mixture at 260 F with a quality of 0.6.

As the heat transfer continues and the temperature increases, the substance will reach its critical point (where the liquid and vapor phases can no longer be distinguished) and enter the superheated vapor region. This means that the substance is now completely in the vapor phase and any additional heat added will result in an increase in temperature without a phase change. In this case, the substance becomes a superheated vapor at 320 F.

The specific volume of the substance will decrease as it transitions from a saturated mixture to a superheated vapor, as you have observed. This is because the molecules in the vapor phase are now further apart and have more energy, resulting in a lower density.

To determine the mass of vapor initially in the tank and the final pressure, you can use the ideal gas law (PV = mRT) and the definition of quality (x = m_vapor/m_total) to solve for the mass of vapor and the final pressure. I would also recommend using a thermodynamic chart or table to verify your calculations.
 

1. What is a saturated mixture?

A saturated mixture is a combination of a liquid and a vapor in equilibrium at a given temperature and pressure. This means that the liquid and vapor phases are present in equal amounts, and any change in temperature or pressure will result in a change in the proportions of the liquid and vapor phases.

2. How does a saturated mixture become a superheated vapor?

A saturated mixture can become a superheated vapor when it is heated above its boiling point at a constant pressure. This causes all of the liquid to vaporize, resulting in a vapor phase with no liquid present. The vapor is then considered to be superheated, as its temperature is above the boiling point for that pressure.

3. What is the significance of a saturated mixture in thermodynamics?

A saturated mixture is important in thermodynamics because it represents a state of equilibrium between two phases. This allows for the study and calculation of properties such as enthalpy, entropy, and internal energy, which are essential in understanding the behavior of substances under different conditions.

4. How is a saturated mixture different from a saturated liquid or vapor?

A saturated liquid is in its pure liquid form at a given temperature and pressure, while a saturated vapor is in its pure gaseous form at the same conditions. A saturated mixture, on the other hand, is a combination of both liquid and vapor phases in equilibrium. This means that the proportions of liquid and vapor can vary, while a saturated liquid or vapor will only exist in one form at a given temperature and pressure.

5. What are some common examples of saturated mixtures in everyday life?

Saturated mixtures can be found in many everyday substances, such as the air we breathe, which is a mixture of water vapor (gas) and water droplets (liquid). Other examples include mixtures of alcohol and water, and mixtures of oil and water. In each case, the two phases are in equilibrium, and any change in temperature or pressure will result in a change in the proportions of the liquid and vapor phases.

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