Two blocks sliding down an incline

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving two packages sliding down a ramp with different masses and coefficients of friction. The question asks how long it takes for one package to reach the bottom. The attempt at a solution involves creating free body diagrams and using equations for acceleration and kinematics, but there is an error in the direction of one of the forces that leads to an incorrect answer.
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oneamp
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Homework Statement


The figure shows two packages that start sliding down a 20 degree ramp from a rest a distance d=6.6m along the ramp from the bottom. Package A has a mass of 5.0kg and a coefficient of friction 0.20. Package B has a mass of 10kg and a coefficient of friction of 0.15. How long does it take package A to reach the bottom?

Illustration shows A closer to the ground on the ramp, with B directly behind (and in contact with) it.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I made a free body diagram for each block.

A
---
m = 5kg
mu_k = 0.20
f_k = 9.21 N
n = 46.04 N
F_G_x = -16.76 N
F_G_y = -46.04 N

B
---
m = 10kg
mu_k = 0.15
f_k = 13.82 N
n = 92.1 N
F_G_x = -33.52 N
F_G_y = -92.1 N

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Third law stuff:
F_(a on b) = F_(b on a) = simply 'F' below.
a_a = a_b (acceleration constraint)

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sum of x for A: -7.55 + F = ma = (5)(a)
for B: -19.7 + F = ma = (10)(a)

solve the system of equations:

a = -2.43 m/s^2

kinematics:

t = 2.335

But -- my answer is wrong. Why?

Thank you
 
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oneamp said:
sum of x for A: -7.55 + F = ma = (5)(a)
for B: -19.7 + F = ma = (10)(a)
you have not taken proper sign with F.

Draw and show, your free body diagram. If you check FBD, it will become clear that the direction of F is different in both the case but you have taken same direction for both mass. Balance forces again to clearly see the mistake.
 
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I will try it out, thank you
 
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oneamp said:
I will try it out, thank you

okay!
 
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for providing your solution and explanation. However, I am unable to determine why your answer is incorrect without seeing your calculations and assumptions. Please review your work and make sure all equations and variables are correct. Additionally, it may be helpful to double check the units and make sure they are consistent throughout your calculation. If you are still having trouble, please provide more information so I can assist you further.
 

1. What is the force required to keep two blocks sliding down an incline at a constant speed?

The force required to keep two blocks sliding down an incline at a constant speed is equal to the force of friction acting in the opposite direction of the motion. This force can be calculated using the formula F = μN, where μ is the coefficient of friction and N is the normal force.

2. How does the mass of the blocks affect their acceleration down the incline?

The mass of the blocks does not affect their acceleration down the incline, as long as the angle of the incline and the force of friction remain constant. This is because the force of gravity acting on the blocks is directly proportional to their mass, canceling out the mass in the equation for acceleration (a = F/m).

3. What factors can affect the speed of the blocks as they slide down the incline?

The speed of the blocks as they slide down the incline can be affected by the angle of the incline, the coefficient of friction, and the mass of the blocks. Other factors such as air resistance and surface roughness may also play a role.

4. What happens to the blocks if the angle of the incline is increased?

If the angle of the incline is increased, the force of gravity acting on the blocks will also increase, causing them to accelerate down the incline at a faster rate. This will also increase the force of friction, which may eventually become greater than the force of gravity and cause the blocks to come to a stop.

5. Can the blocks reach a constant speed while sliding down an incline?

Yes, the blocks can reach a constant speed while sliding down an incline if the force of friction is equal to the force of gravity acting on the blocks. This will result in a net force of zero, and thus the blocks will continue to slide at a constant speed due to the principle of inertia.

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