What do these wavenumbers correspond to in Raman spectroscopy?

In summary, when the molecule absorbs a photon, it then emits light of a higher intensity. The "hills" in the spectrum correspond to a change in energy of the molecule when it starts vibrate more.
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When we have a Raman spectrum of a molecule, on the horizontal axis, there are values of wavenumbers. What does this wavenumbers correspond to?
I don't know whether it is an energy of a photon emitted by a deexciting molecule, or if it is an energy of laser's photons. Here is an example of such spectrum:
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For example, that value of wavenumber ##3000\, \mathrm {cm^{-1}}## is an energy of an emitted photon or a photon from laser? And that high instensity is there why? It means that when the molecule absorbs the photon, it then emits light of a higher intesnity?
 
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It seems like you’re trying to apply classical reasoning to a quantum problem. Photons are indistinguishable: they don’t have labels. (Note that it’s kind of difficult to discuss Raman spectroscopy at B level)

Raman spectroscopy relies on inelastic scattering of photons off a material. A rough classical picture of the Raman effect is that an incoming photon “bounces off” a molecule, causing the molecule to be vibrationally excited. Since energy is conserved, whatever energy is not deposited in the molecular vibration exits the system as a lower energy photon.

However, you can’t say this is the “same” photon or “different,” because photons are indistinguishable (NB—this is true even when the photons are the same energy, as in reflection or Rayleigh scattering).

In terms of intensity, certain vibrational modes of a molecule have certain cross sections, which will tell you how efficient the Raman scattering process is for them. The light detected in a Raman spectrum is much less intense than the Rayleigh scattered light, which is itself much less intense than the incoming laser light.
 
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Lotto said:
When we have a Raman spectrum of a molecule, on the horizontal axis, there are values of wavenumbers. What does this wavenumbers correspond to?
As the google lemma explains, the horizontal axis is the Raman shift, i.e. the energy difference between the incoming and the scattered light. Traditionally the units used are cm-1. (8066 cm-1 = 1eV).

The vertical scale is relative.

For more, google ! e.g: this

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As the google lemma explains, the horizontal axis is the Raman shift, i.e. the energy difference between the incoming and the scattered light. Traditionally the units used are cm-1. (8066 cm-1 = 1eV).

The vertical scale is relative.

For more, google ! e.g: this

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So it is the energy that the molecule gained. So what do these "hills" mean? Does it correspond to a change in energy of the molecule when it starts vibrate more? So when the change in energy is ##3,000\,\mathrm {cm}^{-1}##, it vibrates with frequency ##3,000\,\mathrm {cm}^{-1}##?
 
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Lotto said:
So what do these "hills" mean?
Lineshape analysis is not particularly straightforward:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectral_line_shape
It could be that there are a lot of vibrational modes with relatively low cross section in that region of the spectrum. Or it could be some sort of pressure broadening. Or a combination of multiple factors.
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So when the change in energy is 3,000cm−1, it vibrates with frequency 3,000cm−1?
You're measuring the photons coming from the system in Raman spectroscopy. Since you're exciting with a known frequency, if you measuring frequencies that are lower than that, then you can assume via energy conservation that the missing energy was deposited in the system. For the range normally examined in Raman spectroscopy, yes, these will generally be vibrational modes.
 
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To add to what has already been said, an important distinction to make is the x-axis in wavenumbers is typically labeled as Raman Shift. This shift is relative to the Rayleigh scattering line at 0 cm
-1 and corresponds to the process by which the scattered light being measured is at the same frequency as the incident light source.

When a peak appears in a Raman spectrum, what is being measured is the frequency of a molecular vibration that is being driven by the incident light. You can think of this process as excitation from the ground state to some excited (virtual) state followed by de-excitation to a low-energy vibrational state with a corresponding emission of a photon. This emitted photon will be slightly different in energy (or frequency since E = hf) and this difference in the frequency of the incident photon and the frequency of the outgoing photon is what produces Raman peaks. The molecule is left in an excited vibrational state and we can directly measure the frequency (energy) of this vibrational mode.

You can go a lot deeper with this type of measurement in conjunction with group theory analysis and/or DFT calculations, but for simpler molecules, a database can typically tell you what each peak represents. For example, peaks that appear around 3000 cm-1 are typically related to C-H vibrations, so you can look at the Raman spectra of a given molecule and start to piece together what each vibration physically looks like.

As for line-shape and broadening, what TeethWhitener said is correct - it is not always immediately obvious what causes broadening (or narrowing) of vibrational modes, but there are typically many things at play. For example, researchers typically can get better resolution in Raman spectra by having the sample to be measured in a fridge or cooled to near liquid nitrogen temperatures: typically, the cooler the sample, the narrower the peak. Also, it is worth noting that it is very likely that there are just a large number of vibrational modes that are closely spaced and that is why the peaks don't look like pure Lorentzians. As a rule of thumb, there will typically be 3N-6 vibrational modes for a given molecule where N is the number of atoms in the molecule. There is a lot more nuance to this as not all of those modes will be Raman active (based on selection rules), but you can already see that for a decent-sized molecule, there is potentially a very large number of vibrational modes that you can measure.
 

1. What is a wavenumber in Raman spectroscopy?

A wavenumber in Raman spectroscopy is a unit of measurement used to describe the energy of a photon of light. It is equal to the frequency of the light divided by the speed of light. Wavenumbers are typically measured in units of inverse centimeters (cm-1) and are used to identify the vibrational energy levels of molecules.

2. How are wavenumbers related to Raman shifts?

Wavenumbers and Raman shifts are directly related. Raman shift is the difference between the excitation wavelength (usually a laser) and the scattered light wavelength. This difference is typically reported in units of wavenumbers, making wavenumbers a useful way to measure and compare Raman spectra.

3. What do high and low wavenumbers indicate in Raman spectroscopy?

High wavenumbers in Raman spectroscopy correspond to high-energy photons, which are more likely to cause molecular vibrations. This can indicate the presence of strong chemical bonds or small, highly symmetric molecules. Low wavenumbers, on the other hand, correspond to low-energy photons and can indicate weaker chemical bonds or larger, less symmetric molecules.

4. How do wavenumbers help identify chemical compounds in Raman spectroscopy?

Each chemical compound has a unique Raman spectrum, which is a plot of intensity versus wavenumber. By comparing the wavenumbers and intensities of a sample's Raman spectrum to a database of known spectra, scientists can identify the chemical compounds present in the sample. This is possible because the specific chemical bonds and molecular structures in a compound determine the vibrational energy levels and thus the wavenumbers of its Raman spectrum.

5. Can wavenumbers be used to determine the concentration of a compound in a sample using Raman spectroscopy?

Yes, wavenumbers can be used to determine the concentration of a compound in a sample using Raman spectroscopy. This is because the intensity of a Raman signal is directly proportional to the concentration of the compound in the sample. By measuring the intensity of the Raman signal at a specific wavenumber and comparing it to a calibration curve, the concentration of the compound can be determined. This is a useful tool in quantitative analysis and can be applied in various industries, such as pharmaceuticals and environmental monitoring.

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