Why is raman effect weaker than Rayleigh

In summary: So, we can see that for Rayleigh scattering, the probability amplitude is larger compared to Raman scattering, which leads to a stronger scattering effect.In summary, the Raman effect is weaker than Rayleigh scattering due to the atoms ending up on a higher energy level and the wave-functions of the states not overlapping, resulting in a lower probability amplitude for Raman scattering. This is also supported by the fact that Raman scattering is inelastic while Rayleigh scattering is elastic.
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Hello!

I apologise, if I put this problem into the wrong topic.

I know that when the light is shined on the molecule it can get polarized. And because of that you can get Rayleigh and Raman scaterring. Also I know that only one photon over million or billion will scater as Raman.

The question that puzzles me and I can't get the answer is: Why is Raman effect so weak? Why does light scater more as Rayleigh than Raman?

Thank you for you answer.
 
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The polarizability p is a function of nuclear coordinates Q and you can expand it into a Taylor series:
##p(Q)=p|_{Q_\mathrm{eq}}+\frac{\partial p}{\partial Q}(Q-Q_\mathrm{eq})\ldots##. The first term gives rise to Rayleigh scattering while the second one to Raman scattering. However, ## Q-Q_\mathrm{eq}## is very small for one quantum of vibrational excitation. This is related to the nuclei being heavier than the electrons and therefore it is smaller by some power of (m/M) where m is electronic mass and M is nuclear mass. This is the basic result of Born and Oppenheimers analysis.
 
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I am not sure the this is right. but here is what I thought.

The point is what's difference between the Raman and Rayleigh scattering. For Raman scattering, the atom or molecule goes from the state [itex]|a\rangle[/itex] to a virtual level [itex]|b\rangle[/itex] while absorbing a photon, and then goes to level [itex]|c\rangle[/itex], which is a totally different level of [itex]|a\rangle[/itex], and emit anther photon. The frequencies of the absorbed and emitted photon is changed by [itex](E_c-E_a)/\hbar[/itex]. So this is an inelastic scattering.

For Rayleigh scattering, that atom goes form [itex]|a\rangle[/itex] to the level [itex]|b\rangle[/itex], which is still a virtual level and end in level [itex]|a\rangle[/itex], that's the exact level which the atoms used be on. The frequencies of the absorbed and emitted photon are the same. So this is an elastic scattering.

We have two ways to understand why the Raman Scattering is weak. First, Just look at the change of the atoms. For the Raman scattering, the atoms end up on the higher level. Well, the atoms don't like to be on a higher Energy levels, right? This is why Raman is weak. Here we assumed that [itex]E_a < E_c[/itex], and this is the Stokes Raman scattering. For anti-Stokes Raman scattering, [itex]E_a > E_c[/itex], there are not much populations on the level [itex]E_a[/itex], So it should be weak.

The second way is similar to the first one. we know that [itex]\langle a|c\rangle = 0[/itex]. This means the wave-functions of this two states are not overlapped. Let the scattering operation to be [itex]U[/itex], so [itex]U[/itex] can change the state to [itex]U|a\rangle[/itex], if the atom is coming to [itex]|c \rangle[/itex], that is Raman scatter. The probability amplitude should be [itex]\langle c|U|a \rangle[/itex]. Well, For Rayleigh, it will be [itex]\langle a|U|a \rangle[/itex]. So, which one is larger, it must be [itex]\langle a|U|a \rangle[/itex], because [itex]U[/itex] will not be so weird that change the atomic state so dramatically, and [itex]\langle a|a\rangle = 1[/itex].
 
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1. Why is the Raman effect weaker than the Rayleigh effect?

The Raman effect is weaker than the Rayleigh effect because it is a second-order scattering process, meaning it involves two photons interacting with the sample. On the other hand, the Rayleigh effect is a first-order scattering process that only involves one photon interacting with the sample. This makes the Raman effect less likely to occur, resulting in a weaker signal.

2. Can the Raman effect be stronger than the Rayleigh effect?

Yes, it is possible for the Raman effect to be stronger than the Rayleigh effect. This can occur when the sample has a strong Raman scattering cross section and/or when the laser used for excitation is close to the resonant frequency of the sample, enhancing the Raman signal. However, in most cases, the Raman effect is weaker than the Rayleigh effect.

3. Why is the Raman effect more useful than the Rayleigh effect?

The Raman effect is more useful than the Rayleigh effect because it provides additional information about the sample, such as molecular structure, chemical composition, and vibrational energy levels. The Rayleigh effect, on the other hand, only provides information about the size, shape, and refractive index of the sample. Therefore, the Raman effect is used more frequently for analytical purposes in various fields such as chemistry, biology, and materials science.

4. What factors affect the strength of the Raman effect?

The strength of the Raman effect can be influenced by several factors, including the molecular structure and composition of the sample, the excitation wavelength and power, and the scattering angle. Additionally, the presence of fluorescence and other competing processes can also affect the strength of the Raman signal.

5. How can the Raman effect be enhanced?

There are several ways to enhance the Raman effect, including using a more powerful laser, increasing the concentration of the sample, and using resonance Raman spectroscopy, where the laser is tuned to the resonant frequency of the sample. Other methods such as surface-enhanced Raman spectroscopy (SERS) and tip-enhanced Raman spectroscopy (TERS) can also significantly enhance the Raman signal by utilizing plasmonic effects and near-field interactions.

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