Why Won't a Disk Rotate on a Frictionless Bearing?

In summary, the conversation discusses the inability to rotate a disk when mounted to a frictionless bearing due to the absence of friction. The use of the parallel axis theorem is mentioned to calculate the moment of inertia of the disk, and it is clarified that Mg does not cause the disk to rotate due to its lack of torque. The question is raised about whether the force of Mg provides any torque about the disk's center, which can affect the rotation rate of the disk.
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Lil123
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Homework Statement
Find the period of a pendulum consisting of a disk of mass M and radius R fixed to the end of a rod of length l and mass m. How does the period change if the disk is mounted to the rod by a frictionless bearing so that it is perfectly free to spin?
Relevant Equations
T=2pi/ omega
I was able to solve first part I.e. time period of the system when bearing has friction I am unable to figure it out why disk will not rotate when it is mounted to frictionless bearing ?

I know that due to absence of friction disk cannot rotate but then Mg is also there which can rotate the disk about pivoted point
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You understand that when the disc is mounted to a frictionless axle that it maintains the same orientation as it swings back and forth, right?

Can you show us your work when you did the calculations for the first part? Did you use the parallel axis theorem?
 
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jbriggs444 said:
You understand that when the disc is mounted to a frictionless axle that it maintains the same orientation as it swings back and forth, right?

Can you show us your work when you did the calculations for the first part? Did you use the parallel axis theorem?
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yes , I did used parallel axis theorem to find moment of inertia of disk about pivoted point
 
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Lil123 said:
Mg is also there which can rotate the disk about pivoted point
The mass centre of the disc is either at the pivot point or hangs directly below it. Either way, Mg has no torque about the pivot, so will not cause the disc to rotate.
 
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Can you explain more clearly please
 
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Lil123 said:
Can you explain more clearly please
As to the point being made by @haruspex, the rotation rate of the disc about its own center can vary if there is a torque about the disc's center. Does the force from ##mg## acting on the disc provide any torque about the disc's center?

If not, why would the disc ever rotate about its own center?
 
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1. Why does a disk not rotate on a frictionless bearing?

A disk will not rotate on a frictionless bearing because there is no friction between the disk and the bearing. Friction is necessary for rotation to occur, as it creates resistance and allows the disk to grip onto the bearing and turn.

2. Can a disk rotate on a frictionless bearing if it is pushed or pulled?

No, a disk cannot rotate on a frictionless bearing even if it is pushed or pulled. Without friction, there is no force to cause the disk to rotate. The disk will simply slide or glide along the bearing without any rotational motion.

3. Is it possible to make a disk rotate on a frictionless bearing?

Technically, it is not possible to make a disk rotate on a frictionless bearing. However, there are ways to simulate friction by using magnetic fields or air pressure to create resistance and allow for rotation.

4. What happens if a disk is placed on a frictionless bearing?

If a disk is placed on a frictionless bearing, it will remain stationary. Without friction, there is no force to cause the disk to rotate. The disk will simply rest on the bearing without any movement.

5. Can a disk rotate forever on a frictionless bearing?

No, a disk cannot rotate forever on a frictionless bearing. Without friction, the disk will eventually slow down and stop due to external forces such as air resistance or imperfections in the bearing. In a perfectly frictionless environment, the disk may continue to rotate, but this is not possible in the real world.

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