Recent content by leviterande
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Do surfaces ahead of propellers decrease thrust?
Hi, I have done some more extensive experimentation on the subject with various flying models. I am going to present the results once I am finished soon. Data on such configurations are pretty much non existent on google. Let me just say I am a little surprised by my contradicting results...- leviterande
- Post #9
- Forum: Aerospace Engineering
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Do surfaces ahead of propellers decrease thrust?
Hi! I have had this question for ages, nearly impossible to find anything on the web. My experiments confused me even further! Its concerning the blockage effects of surfaces ahead of a propeller. For example let's consider the usual dual vectoring propellers on the sides of airshipcars like...- leviterande
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- Aerodynamics decrease Propellers Surfaces Thrust
- Replies: 9
- Forum: Aerospace Engineering
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Graduate Wake drag of moving/stationary flat plates: Not identical?
Dear boneh3ad, admittedly yes I know that this last example may look very different, but I wanted originally to consider this last example to show the same point I have in mind, namely the wake drag portion behind the plate. I understand that the air coming from the front and around the...- leviterande
- Post #33
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Wake drag of moving/stationary flat plates: Not identical?
Indeed, in accelerating frames things get different. However I am luckily only talking about constant speeds:)(at least I think I am thus far hehe) I feel that my exact point was probably not clear so I am going to use an extreme example (possibly inappropriate but should show the point )...- leviterande
- Post #19
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Wake drag of moving/stationary flat plates: Not identical?
I feel that what I wanted to know, the issue in question, seems -despite what I wrote- to not have came out clear. I understand that the situations should be the same but I want to understand how, how the air directly behind is the same for the 2 situations. To illustrate my point even...- leviterande
- Post #13
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Wake drag of moving/stationary flat plates: Not identical?
I appreciate your replies. I understand that the 2 situations should be the same, -a fact you have made clear- I just don't grasp yet the how; how the two wakes are identical. it seems my exact question wasnt clear. My current understanding of negative...- leviterande
- Post #11
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Wake drag of moving/stationary flat plates: Not identical?
Your words are clear. Obviously though, the subject is more clear to you than it is to me, a fact which may make you bypass some things that may be regarded as straightforward to you but not to me:). Happy shopping btw, (hope its not too heavy on the wallet hehe). In both cases then there...- leviterande
- Post #8
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Wake drag of moving/stationary flat plates: Not identical?
(Of course I realize that the two wakes of the two situations ought to be identical somehow, but how? ) I have considered and imagined several frames of reference. But still I don't understand how the air in the wakes would be similar. I outlined my thinking in the earlier posts.- leviterande
- Post #6
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Wake drag of moving/stationary flat plates: Not identical?
Sorry, perhaps the word rarefied was not adequate, what I mainly meant was that the air flow directly behind the moving plate seemed different than behind the stationary plate. Ok, let's see, I am moving with the moving plate, let's say I am at the center of the plate area and looking now...- leviterande
- Post #4
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Wake drag of moving/stationary flat plates: Not identical?
Hi All! See the picture. A-Consider a flat plate physically moving perpendicularly through the air. B-Consider this same flat plate sitting perpendicularly and stationary now in a wind tunnel where air is made to flow. Accordingly if airspeeds, areas etc are similar, the 2 situations...- leviterande
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- Drag Flat Plates
- Replies: 40
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Calculate Lift from a full-blown-circulation airfoil?
With all due respect I am not sure how much you are aware about the vast and various research and results concerning CCW, active Upper surface blowing and-or trailing edge blowing/circulating, basically active circulation. (Pardon me if in any case got you wrong). CCW research indicates...- leviterande
- Post #7
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Calculate Lift from a full-blown-circulation airfoil?
Yep,a blunt trailing edge alone w/o blowing allows more lift at cost of drag. I was headed towards the various options to get that even extra lift with the various active circulation methods. I am currently trying to finding out information about lift calculations of rotating...- leviterande
- Post #5
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Calculate Lift from a full-blown-circulation airfoil?
I am reading as usual as much as I can to learn more about this specific subject. I have found lots of papers but not specifically related to the problem. However, recently among my research I have discovered,-- if I am not wrong-- that upper + lower blowing wouldn´t affect lift, in...- leviterande
- Post #3
- Forum: Mechanics
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Graduate Calculate Lift from a full-blown-circulation airfoil?
Hello everyone! I am interested in roughly calculating the lift from an airfoil that has air circulating around its full circumference, (can be done by a treadmill skin but probably best done in practice by blowing air from slots around the entire circumference as seen in Fig.1) As...- leviterande
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- Airfoil Lift
- Replies: 8
- Forum: Mechanics
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Undergrad Wind past a flat roof, without hitting the sidewall
Excellent! Understood and makes sense as I originally thought. Now however, it seems (unless I hopefully misinterpreted boneh3ad) in post #9, that his conclusions to be opposite to yours? ha? I interpreted from post 9 that lift would occur on a manhole plate just because there is a parallel...- leviterande
- Post #19
- Forum: Mechanics