Big-O Notation Question: Polynomial with Variable Coefficients

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The discussion centers on expressing a polynomial with variable coefficients in Big-O notation, specifically the form βx^5 + β^2x^7 + β^3x^9, represented as a series. The original poster notes that if β were constant, the expression could be simplified to O(x^5). They explore the implications of treating β as a variable while analyzing the behavior as x approaches 0. Another participant suggests that the series resembles a geometric series, which could lead to a closed form that clarifies its asymptotic behavior. The conversation emphasizes the need to consider both variables in the context of Big-O notation for accurate analysis.
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Hello,

I have a polynomial having the form:

\beta x^5 + \beta^2 x^7 + \beta^3 x^9 + \ldots = \sum_{n=1}^{+\infty}\beta^n x^{2n+3}

How can I express this with Big-O notation?
Please, note that I consider β as another variable (independent from x). I already know that if β was a constant I could express the above quantity as O(x^5).
 
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First of all I forgot to mention that x\geq 0 and \beta \in \mathbb{R}.

I will try to apply the definition found in Wikipedia, although that definition refers specifically to functions of one-variable. I am not sure we can use that definition, but I will try.

Let's "pretend" that β is a constant and x the variable. We have: f(x)=\beta x^5 + \beta^2 x^7 + \beta^3 x^9\ldots

and I am interested in studying the behavior for x\to 0.
We have that: |\beta x^5 + \beta^2 x^7 + \beta^3 x^9\ldots | \leq |\beta| x^5 + |\beta^2| x^7 + |\beta^3| x^9\ldots \leq |\beta| x^5 + |\beta^2| x^5 + |\beta^3| x^5 \ldots, hence we have f(x)\in O(r^5), as expected.

By considering β variable, and x constant we have f(\beta) \in O(\beta).

Now what?
 
So you want x->0 and \beta \to 0 right?

Your series looks a lot like a geometric series. In fact
\sum_{i=1}^\infty \beta^nx^{3+2n} = x^3\sum_{i=1}^\infty (\beta x^2)^n
For small enough \beta and x you should get a nice closed form from which you can more easily see the series' asymptotic behavior.
 
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