Feynman's Nobel classical electrodynamics action

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Feynman's Nobel lecture presents an electrodynamic action in 4-vector form, specifically addressing interactions between particles. The discussion highlights the relationship between Feynman's action and the Darwin Lagrangian, noting that Feynman's formulation utilizes individual proper times for each particle, while the Darwin Lagrangian employs a universal time framework. A request is made to re-express the action for a pair of particles in 3-vector form, acknowledging the complexity introduced by the need for double integrals in the Feynman action compared to the single integral in the Darwin Lagrangian.

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In his Nobel lecture Feynman describes an electrodynamic action between a set of particles (equation 1, one third way thru lecture):

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1965/feynman-lecture.html

The action is in 4-vector form.

I wonder if someone could do me a favour and re-express the action just for a pair of particles in 3-vector form?

I presume the action is related to the Darwin Lagrangian. The main difference between them is that in the Feynman action each particle has its own proper time whereas the Darwin lagrangian is expressed in a universal time.

Thanks,

John
 
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I think it should be easy if you just replace X^i by (ct_i,\mathbf r_i) in the integral and play a little with the formula. However, the resulting action will contain double integral over two trajectories, while the action for the Darwin Lagrangian is just an integral of certain function over coordinate time. The motions described by the two are quite different in general; the motion due to the action with Darwin Lagrangian can be thought of as best approximation to the motion implied by the Feynman action, possible with action that uses just coordinates and velocities at common time.
 

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