Poll: How many elementary fermions?

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The discussion centers on the expected number of elementary fermions in a final theory, emphasizing the significance of the Pauli exclusion principle as a foundational concept. Participants explore why proposed numbers often appear as powers of 2, attributing this to considerations of degrees of freedom in fields, where decisions about particle-antiparticle distinctions and helicity can lead to multiplicative or divisive adjustments. One contributor suggests a total of 24 fermions, including six leptons and six quarks, along with their antiparticles, while dismissing supersymmetric fermions as non-genuine. The conversation also includes light-hearted commentary on the nature of the discussion, highlighting the participants' shared enthusiasm for the topic.

How many elementary fermions in final theory?

  • 0

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 1

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • 4

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • 8

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  • 16

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  • some low number

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • around 90

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  • finite, but a lot

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • infiniry

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  • Total voters
    6
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The question, broadly, is how many elementary particles do you expect to be in the final theory. But just to be more concrete, I have narrowed it to "fermions" as Pauli principle is the closest thing we have to ancient "impenetrability", fitting the naive idea of particle.
 
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Why are all the suggested answers powers of 2?
 
Well, in part because when you are thinking about the question you think about "degrees of freedom" of fields, and this usually come to duplicate or halving the answer. For instance, if you decide that particle and artiparticle are two different elementary objects, you multiply by two. If you decide that helicities 1/2 and -1/2 are the same particle, you divide by two. So the likeliest answer will be something as n*2^m... note that by restricting to fermions I ruled out the number of Higgses and other bosons.

Then, as always, the poll does not cover all the possibilities. Reasoned comments are wellcome :-)

Alejandro
 
six leptons and six quarks, plus antiparticles, makes 24. I don't consider "fermionic" particles in super symmetry to be real fermions.
 
^^^ Sracist.
 
PCino
 
Originally posted by damgo
^^^ Sracist.
LOL!

You know you're a nerd when you get jokes like this!

- Warren
 
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