Could you have BOTH mirror matter and supersymmetry?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between mirror matter and supersymmetry (SUSY), exploring whether both concepts can coexist and what implications this might have for dark matter candidates. Participants delve into the theoretical underpinnings and references related to these topics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that mirror symmetry and supersymmetry are distinct fields, questioning the implications of mirror matter's existence on SUSY and dark matter candidates.
  • One participant suggests consulting external references to better understand mirror matter, indicating a lack of familiarity with the topic.
  • A participant introduces a paper discussing anti-generation fields and their relation to supersymmetry breaking, proposing a model that could connect these concepts.
  • Another participant shares additional resources, including a review on mirror particles and mirror matter, which outlines the historical context and evolution of these ideas.
  • Concerns are raised about the terminology used in the literature, specifically regarding the distinction between mirror particles relevant to the discussion and those that do not pertain to the original question of electroweak breaking.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and familiarity with mirror matter, leading to an exploratory discussion without a clear consensus on the relationship between mirror matter and supersymmetry.

Contextual Notes

Some references provided may not directly address the specific question of how mirror matter relates to SUSY, highlighting potential limitations in the sources discussed.

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I know that mirror symmetry resulting in mirror matter and supersymmetry resulting in SUSY partners are two completely distinct fields, and that the original bosonic string theory needs SUSY to get fermions.

If mirror matter does exist in the universe, what would this mean in terms of SUSY? Would we have a multiplication of dark matter candidates?
 
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I suggested that because I really don't know anything about mirror matter... so, maybe by looking at some references, we could find something.
 
MTd2 said:
I suggested that because I really don't know anything about mirror matter... so, maybe by looking at some references, we could find something.
fair enough :)
 
I found something:

It seems that anti generation is a mirror generation.

http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0001323
Mediation of Supersymmetry Breaking via Anti-Generation Fields

Authors: M.Ito (Nagoya Univ), T.Matsuoka (Koggakan Univ)
(Submitted on 31 Jan 2000 (v1), last revised 13 May 2000 (this version, v3))

Abstract: In the context of the weakly coupled heterotic string, we propose a new model of mediating supersymmetry breaking. The breakdown of supersymmetry in the hidden sector is transmitted to anti-generation fields via gravitational interactions. Subsequent transmission of the breaking to the MSSM sector occurs via gauge interactions. It is shown that the mass spectra of superparticles are phenomenologically viable.
 
It seems Takeo Matsuoka has several papers regarding your question:

http://arxiv.org/find/hep-ph/1/au:+Matsuoka_T/0/1/0/all/0/1

I guess this is also very helpful:

http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0606202

Mirror particles and mirror matter: 50 years of speculation and search
Authors: L.B. Okun
(Submitted on 19 Jun 2006 (v1), last revised 1 Dec 2006 (this version, v2))

Abstract: This review describes the history of discovery of violation of spatial parity P, charge conjugation parity C, combined parity CP. The hypothesis of existence of mirror particles was called upon by its authors to restore the symmetry between left and right. The review presents the emergence and evolution of the concepts ``mirror particles'' and ``mirror matter''. It could serve as a concise guide to the ``mirror-land''. An important part of the review is the list of about 250 references with their titles.
 
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At the end of the above article, the author gives a warning when searching for mirror matter (p.11, conclusions):

"The extra articles in Google Scholar do not deal with those mirror particles that are the subject of this review. They are “mirror” in a different sense. For instance, the terms “mirror families” or “mirror fermions” refer to hypothetical families of very heavy fermions with reversed isotopic quantum numbers, which are presumed to interact with ordinary photons and gluons."

I guess it is in this sense that Matsuoka treats mirror particles. So, I guess the mirror family that is contained in garrett lisi is not related to the question of electroweak break.
 

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