Can expansion be due to large-scale curvature?

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The discussion centers on whether large-scale curvature can solely account for the universe's expansion. It is noted that while galaxies can move in curved space, expansion involves the behavior of curvature over time, requiring a driving force beyond curvature itself. The concept of accelerated expansion is distinguished from curvature, emphasizing that it represents an acceleration of curvature rather than curvature itself. Additionally, it is clarified that the observable universe exhibits near-zero spatial curvature but does have space-time curvature, which is linked to expansion. Overall, the relationship between curvature and expansion in cosmology is complex and requires a nuanced understanding of both concepts.
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I wanted to say I love the posts on this Cosmology forum - very good reads.

My question is whether there is enough to large-scale curvature alone to cause the expansion of the universe as we measure it? Why can't galaxies accelerating away from us be moving in curved space?

I agree with the idea of infinite matter-energy density at some time in the past and also with inflation. I believe I understand homogeneity and isotropy.

The question in part is whether large-scale curvature satisfactory to move galaxies in ever increasing velocities with further distances would be consistent with observations like COBE data and also would it be symmetrical.

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Expansion isn't due to 'curvature', per se. Curvature is defined at a point (or region) of spacetime, while expansion is the behavior of curvature over time---the 'velocity' of the curvature, if you will.
Accelerated expansion is a level further away from curvature itself, its like the 'acceleration' of the curvature (again, a loose metaphor) and requires a driving force beyond the curvature itself.
But galaxies certainly are moving in curved space.
 
zhermes said:
Expansion isn't due to 'curvature', per se. Curvature is defined at a point (or region) of spacetime, while expansion is the behavior of curvature over time---the 'velocity' of the curvature, if you will.
Accelerated expansion is a level further away from curvature itself, its like the 'acceleration' of the curvature (again, a loose metaphor) and requires a driving force beyond the curvature itself.
But galaxies certainly are moving in curved space.
Actually, it's entirely the other way around. The expansion of space is quite precisely and accurately described as space-time curvature. It is not, however, spatial curvature. The spatial curvature of our observable universe is very close to zero. But it does have space-time curvature, and that manifests itself as expansion.
 
Yeah, @Chalnoth is definitely correct; not sure what I was thinking on that one...
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombination_(cosmology) Was a matter density right after the decoupling low enough to consider the vacuum as the actual vacuum, and not the medium through which the light propagates with the speed lower than ##({\epsilon_0\mu_0})^{-1/2}##? I'm asking this in context of the calculation of the observable universe radius, where the time integral of the inverse of the scale factor is multiplied by the constant speed of light ##c##.
Why was the Hubble constant assumed to be decreasing and slowing down (decelerating) the expansion rate of the Universe, while at the same time Dark Energy is presumably accelerating the expansion? And to thicken the plot. recent news from NASA indicates that the Hubble constant is now increasing. Can you clarify this enigma? Also., if the Hubble constant eventually decreases, why is there a lower limit to its value?
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