Do length contraction affects accelerating objects?

In summary, a rod accelerating through space with a rate of 1m/s^2 will undergo Lorentz contraction, resulting in a shortened length in the direction of motion relative to a stationary observer. However, this is not an optical illusion, but a real physical effect. As for the spinning disk, there are subtleties involved and it is important to specify what is meant by "deformation". The spatial geometry of the disk is not well-defined for a family of observers comoving with the disk, but can be described using a non-canonical notion of simultaneity.
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Suppose I'm standing on Earth and i see an iron rod accelerating through space with a rate of 1m/s^2. Will it undergo length contraction after reaching a speed nearly to the c?
Will there be any deformations to a spinning disk?
 
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There will be the usual Lorentz contraction for the rod.
 
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Which means the rod appear foreshortened?
 
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Trojan666ru said:
Which means the rod appear foreshortened?

The rod will be length contracted in the direction of motion relative to your rest frame. Not foreshortened though, as LC is not an illusion.
 
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Trojan666ru said:
Which means the rod appear foreshortened?

Yes.
 
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Trojan666ru said:
Will there be any deformations to a spinning disk?

There are arguably many more subtleties involved with a spinning disk than with a uniformly accelerating rod. See here for a more or less detailed analysis: http://www.projects.science.uu.nl/igg/dieks/rotation.pdf

Also, you have to be specific with the term "deformation". Take for example a disk spinning with constant angular velocity ##\omega##. Each point on the disk has its own worldline and the worldline is an integral curve of the vector field ##\xi^{\mu} = \gamma \partial_t^{\mu} + \gamma \omega \partial_{\phi}^{\mu}## where ##\gamma = (1 - \omega^2 r^2 )^{-1/2}## and we are working in cylindrical coordinates. So I can represent the worldtube of the entire disk by ##\xi^{\mu}##. If by "deformation" you mean shear and expansion stresses to the disk then in this case there will be none. The expansion tensor (which codifies both shear and expansion stresses) vanishes identically for this system: ##\theta_{\mu\nu} = h_{\mu}{}{}^{\alpha}h_{\nu}{}{}^{\beta}\nabla_{(\alpha}\xi_{\beta)} = 0## where ##h_{\mu\nu}## gives the spatial distances between neighboring points on the disk relative to ##\xi^{\mu}##. In fact ##\theta_{\mu\nu} = 0## is equivalent to Born rigid motion so it is clear that there are neither shear nor expansion stresses in this system.

If, on the other hand, you are using "deformation" to mean a change in the "shape" of the disk then this is quite subtle. The "shape" of the disk is an aspect of its spatial (i.e. not space-time) geometry and as such has no frame invariant meaning. In fact, going back to the case of the uniformly rotating disk, there is no natural way of defining the spatial geometry of the disk relative to a family of observers each comoving with a respective point on the disk because the vector field ##\xi^{\mu}## above which describes the worldlines of these obeservers is not irrotational: ##\omega^{\mu} = \epsilon^{\mu\nu\alpha\beta}\xi_{\nu}\nabla_{\alpha}\xi_{\beta} \neq 0## so what this means is that there is no natural notion of simultaneity between these observers and hence no natural notion of spatial geometry of the disk relative to these observers. See the following link: http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0311058v4.pdf and take heed of the following quote from p.65 of the linked paper: "Every notion of simultaneity has associated a different notion of spatial length, and therefore a different radius and circumference length will a appear at each non-inertial observers, namely the disk 3-geometry will be simultaneity-dependent."

However there is a non-canonical notion of simultaneity that is well adapted to the above scenario that gets around the fact that the congruence of observers comoving with the disk is not twist-free. This is the simultaneity convention given by (local) radar distance. Under this the spatial geometry of the disk does become curved. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_coordinates#Radar_distance_in_the_small

Have fun with the readings!
 
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Trojan666ru said:
Which means the rod appear foreshortened?

Meir Achuz said:
Yes.

Intended for accuracy - not to pick nits... I've read on PF that length contraction is not 'an illusion'. Any definition of foreshortened that concerns distance is all about illusion. The OP may be aware of this, so it's important to point out.
 
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TumblingDice said:
Intended for accuracy - not to pick nits... I've read on PF that length contraction is not 'an illusion'. Any definition of foreshortened that concerns distance is all about illusion. The OP may be aware of this, so it's important to point out.

Just to clarify, does "Any definition of foreshortened that concerns distance is all about illusion." refer to the scenario where a meter stick I calculate as contracted measures shorter distances then I do.

For example a ship that travels at 0.9c to a point one light year away from Earth as measured from Earth will itself measure/calculate that distance between Earth and the point as contracted compared to the original 1ly Earth frame value; while en route? (to the point where the speed of light is calculated to be c)
 
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If you measure a rod at rest x meters long, then you measure the moving rod less than x meters long.

If you consider a rod at rest in front of you, you do not say the rod at rest 'appears' x meters long. You don't do this because you do not refer to any 'optical illusion'.
Stating that a moving rod 'appears' contracted insinuates there is some optical illusion involved. But there is no optical illusion invoved. Therefore there is no reason at all to state that a moving rod 'appears' contracted. If you state that the moving rod 'appears' contracted, then a rod at rest also only 'appears' measuring a certain length.

If you accept that you measure the rod at rest x meter long because the rod out there is 'really' (whatever that means) x meters long, then the moving rod with shorter length is also 'really' (whatever that means) out there. (Keep in mind that the moving rod in your frame refers to a collection of other events than the events in the frame of the rod). Therefore:

If you consider the simultaneous events of the rod at rest 'exist' (whatever that means), then the simultaneous events of the shorter moving rod in your frame (the moving rod is made of different events than in the rod's frame) also 'exist' (whatever that means).

The reason why people often think the contraction only 'appears' as such is because the contraction is reciprocal. How can the moving train be contracted for the station observer, but for the train observer the station is contracted, if its no optical illusion?
Consider the railway station and the train as 4D spacetime structures instead of evolving 3D objects, then the reciprocal length contraction and time dilation do make sense. They are different cuts with different 'direction' through the 4D spacetime structures (like cutting a loaf of bread in different directions result in different 'objects' -slices of bread- with its proper dimensions). Minkowski or Loedel diagrams visualize this very well.

If you are a 'realist', then these cuts are different but 'real' 3D spaces part of 'real' 4D spacetime 'existence'. Whatever your definition of 'real' and 'existence' is.
If you are a solipsist, then all the above is only a mathematical calculation wirh no reference to any 3D or 4D object 'really existing' out there. So be it.

But stating that a train at rest is 'real', but the contracted train only an optical or mathematical feature without 'real' content (and therefore only 'appears' contracted) does not make sense.
 

1. How does length contraction work for accelerating objects?

Length contraction is a phenomenon in which the length of an object appears to decrease when it is in motion relative to an observer. This effect is only noticeable when the object is moving at a significant fraction of the speed of light. For accelerating objects, the length contraction is constantly changing as the speed of the object changes.

2. Does length contraction affect all types of objects?

Yes, length contraction affects all objects, regardless of their mass or size. However, the effect is only noticeable for objects moving at high speeds, close to the speed of light.

3. How does length contraction affect the shape of an object?

Length contraction does not affect the shape of an object. It only changes the apparent length of the object as perceived by an observer. The object remains intact and maintains its shape.

4. Is length contraction a real physical phenomenon?

Yes, length contraction is a real physical phenomenon that has been confirmed through numerous experiments and is an integral part of the theory of special relativity.

5. Can length contraction be observed in everyday life?

No, length contraction is only noticeable at extremely high speeds, close to the speed of light. These speeds are not achievable in everyday life situations, so length contraction cannot be observed in our daily experiences.

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