Postion -> Velocity -> Acceleration -> Jerk ->?

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The discussion centers on the derivatives of position as functions of time, specifically exploring the fourth derivative, referred to as "snap," and its higher-order derivatives. The conversation identifies the derivatives as follows: position (x), velocity (v), acceleration (a), jerk (j), and introduces the fourth derivative as snap, with potential names including "jounce," "spasm," "surge," and "sprite." The practical applications of these higher-order derivatives, particularly in harmonic functions like a pendulum, are also examined, highlighting their relevance in classifying maximum and minimum accelerations.

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We all know that, assuming x(t) = position as a function of time, then:

x'(t) = v(t) = velocity
x''(t) = v'(t) = a(t) = acceleration
x'''(t) = v''(t) = a'(t) = j(t) = jerk (assuming j is the symbol for jerk).

But what does x''''(t) = j'(t) come out to be? Is there a fourth derivative of position? And if so, is it ever practically used?

What about fifth, sixth, seventh, etc derivatives?

This is just something I've been extremely curious about since I learned of the third derivative, jerk (or jolt).

Thanks!
 
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The term ¨x¨[d4x/dt4 is the time derivative of the jerk,
which might be called a ‘‘spasm.’’ It has also been called a
‘‘jounce,’’ a ‘‘sprite,’’ a ‘‘surge,’’ or a ‘‘snap,’’ with its successive
derivatives, ‘‘crackle’’ and ‘‘pop.’’

http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pubs/paper229.pdf

'snap', 'crackle' and 'pop'...:smile:
 
Haha that's funny.

Does anyone happen to have a position/time graph in which you'd be able to calculate something like the fifth or sixth derivative of x? Would these ever even be needed? Hah.
 
Anything that is a harmonic function, like say a pendulum, will have a non zero nth order x^n derivative thing.

say, x = Sin(t)
 
Derivatives of order 4 & 5 can be used to find and classify the maximum/minimum accelerations, for example.
 

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