Understanding the centrifugal force

AI Thread Summary
Centrifugal force is defined as Fcf = m(Ω×r)×Ω, where Ω is angular velocity and r is the radius from the center of rotation. This force appears to act radially outward in a rotating frame, such as in a centrifuge, but is considered fictitious because it does not exist in an inertial frame. In an inertial frame, the tension in the string of a spinning ball provides the necessary centripetal force to maintain circular motion; when the string breaks, the ball continues in a straight line due to inertia. In a rotating frame, the object appears stationary, and the centrifugal force is perceived as a gravity-like force pushing it outward. Ultimately, centrifugal force is a concept that helps explain motion in non-inertial frames but has no physical counterpart in inertial frames.
cytochrome
Messages
163
Reaction score
3
I'm learning about mechanics in noninertial frames and I'd like to clarify the apparent centrifugal force.

To set things straight,

Centrifugal force = Fcf = m(Ω×rΩ

where Ω×r is the instaneous velocity at a point on the outside of a circle (or other rotating path) and Ω is the angular velocity?

By looking at a picture, this would have the centrifugal force pointing out radially from the rotating path (which makes sense when imagining a centrifuge for example).

Is this force called "fictitious" because there is actually no force (as observed from a rotating frame of reference, or an inertial frame?) that is causing an object to accelerate in this radial direction? What is the force exactly?

For example - Imagine you are spinning a ball on a string around in circles and the string breaks, causing the ball to fly outward perpandicular to the direction of motion. Is the centrifugal force responsible for this?

How does this force relate to observations seen from a noninterial or inertial frame?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
In inertial frame.

There is no centrifugal force. The reason the string is under tension is because it pulls on the object in order to keep it centripetally accelerating to travel in a circular path. The reason the object flies away when the string breaks is because it continues to travel in the straight path.

In a rotating frame. (Frame rotation matches rotation of the object.)

Object is stationary. It's not moving at all. So the only explanation for the tension in the string is gravity-like force pulling on the object, forcing it away from center. That's the centrifugal force. When the string snaps, that force accelerates the object away from center.The centrifugal force is a fictitious force because it does not exist in an inertial frame of reference. It only manifests when we try to use Newton's Laws to describe motion in an accelerated frame of reference.
 
I have recently been really interested in the derivation of Hamiltons Principle. On my research I found that with the term ##m \cdot \frac{d}{dt} (\frac{dr}{dt} \cdot \delta r) = 0## (1) one may derivate ##\delta \int (T - V) dt = 0## (2). The derivation itself I understood quiet good, but what I don't understand is where the equation (1) came from, because in my research it was just given and not derived from anywhere. Does anybody know where (1) comes from or why from it the...
Back
Top