How to Solve for Time in Kinematics Equations

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The discussion revolves around solving for time (T) in the kinematic equation D = ViT + 0.5AT^2. A user attempts to derive a formula for T using algebraic manipulation and completing the square but expresses uncertainty about the accuracy of their final equation, t = (-Vi ± √(Vi + 2ad))/a. Other participants suggest using the quadratic formula and emphasize the importance of checking units for consistency. The conversation highlights the complexity of deriving the equation correctly and the need to ensure that displacement values are accurately represented.
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Ok well I'm making a program to solve all my physics formulas quick and easy. But for the equation D = ViT + .5AT^2 I can't solve for T. I forgot some of my algebra 2 skills, which would come in handy here :rolleyes:. This is what I have so far:

Since this is somewhat similar to deriving the quadratic equation I wrote that down to try to mirror it.

d = v_{i}t + \frac{1}{2}at^{2}

0 = v_{i}t + \frac{1}{2}at^{2} - d

\frac{1}{2}at^{2} + v_{i}t - d = 0

\frac{1}{2}at^{2} + v_{i}t = d

t^{2} + \frac{2v_{i}t}{a} = \frac{2d}{a}

t^{2} + \frac{2v_{i}t}{a} + \frac{v_{i}^{2}}{a^{2}} = \frac{2d}{a} + \frac{v_{i}^{2}}{a^{2}}

(t + \frac{v_{i}}{a})^{2} = \frac{2d}{a} + \frac{v_{i}^{2}}{a^{2}}

t + \frac{v_{i}}{a} = \sqrt{\frac{2d}{a} + \frac{v_{i}}{a^{2}}}

t = - \frac{v_{i}}{a}\pm\sqrt{\frac{2d}{a} + \frac{v_{i}}{a^{2}}}

t = - \frac{v_{i}}{a}\pm\sqrt{\frac{2da}{a^{2}} + \frac{v_{i}}{a^{2}}}

t = - \frac{v_{i}}{a}\frac{\pm\sqrt{v_{i} + 2ad}}{a}

t = \frac{-v_{i}\pm\sqrt{v_{i} + 2ad}}{a}Is there any way of simlifing this more? Any help is appreciated. Well I can't seem to get my LaTeX image to show up, can anyone edit it so it will?
 
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are you referring the the kinematic eq.
x=x_{0}+v_{0} t+\frac{a}{2}t^{2}
if so why do you not just use the quadratic formula if you're trying to solve for t.
t = \frac{-v_{0} \pm \sqrt{v_{0}^{2}-2ax_{0}}}{a}
if you want to derive the quad. equation then, start with the first formula, complete the square in terms of t, and solve remember in completing the square you have to make it such that the coefficient in front of the squared term is 1, otherwise it's a little messier.
 
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Ya that's what I did... if only the latex from the first post would show up

This is the first equation:
d = v_{i}t + \frac{1}{2}at^2

And this is the final equation I got:

t = \frac{-v_{i} \pm \sqrt{v_{i} + 2ad}}{a}
 
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Is the final equation right? I don't think it is.
 
Firestrider said:
Is the final equation right? I don't think it is.

The usual response to this is: "plug your solution back into your initial equation!"

However, before carrying that out, it's a good idea to check that the units of your expression are consistent.
 
Tried that, didn't work! Plugged in 5's and got a 3m as displacement.
 
Firestrider said:
Ya that's what I did... if only the latex from the first post would show up

This is the first equation:
d = v_{i}t + \frac{1}{2}at^2

And this is the final equation I got:

t = \frac{-v_{i} \pm \sqrt{v_{i} + 2ad}}{a}

You should get with your equation
t = \frac{-v_{i} \pm \sqrt{v_{i}^{2}-2a (\pm d)}}{a}
remember
d=d_{f}-d_{i}
so if
d_{f}<d_{i}
your result wouldn't be correct.
 
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