Integrating Trigonometric Substitution and Simplifying Tricky Integrals

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The integral \(\int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{y^2}{1+y^4} dy\) poses challenges for trigonometric substitution and integration by parts. A suggested approach is to simplify the integral by dividing the numerator and denominator by \(y^2\), leading to \(\int \frac{dy}{y^2 + 1/y^2}\). Further manipulation reveals that \(y^2 + 1/y^2\) can be expressed in terms of squares, facilitating easier integration. Contour integration is mentioned as a potential solution, but simpler methods are emphasized as sufficient. Ultimately, the integral can be resolved through clever algebraic manipulation without the need for complex techniques.
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I'm having difficulty with this, trigonometic substitution won't work, neither would integration by parts...
\int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{y^2}{1+y^4} dy

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doing trigonometric substitution with y^2 = tan\theta, I would get
\frac{1}{2} \int_{- \frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sqrt{tan \theta} d\theta
 
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Don't make the trig sub.

Instead, divide numerator and denominator by y^2.
You'll have
\int \frac{dy}{y^2 + 1/y^2}

There's a tricky step (more like manipulation) to solve this. Here's a hint:
y^2 + 1/y^2 = (y+1/y)^2 - 2
y^2 + 1/y^2 = (y-1/y)^2 + 2

Can you play around for a while and take it from here?
 
hey, thanks for the help siddharth...yeah, i'll try to play around this form and fina a solution.

thanks again
 
Contour integration is the solution.

Daniel.
 
Also, u might try for a simple fraction expansion.

y^{4}+1 =\left(y^{2}+\sqrt{2}y+1\right)\left(y^{2}-\sqrt{2}y+1\right)

The result is \frac{1}{4}\pi \sqrt{2}

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
Contour integration is the solution.

Daniel.

You don't need contour integration to solve this.

The trick in integrating
\int \frac{dy}{y^2 + 1/y^2}

is to write it as

(1/2) \int \left( \frac{1-1/y^2}{(y+1/y)^2 - 2} + \frac{1+1/y^2}{(y-1/y)^2 + 2} \right) dy

This is very easy to integrate.
 
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This is very nice :)

siddharth said:
You don't need contour integration to solve this.

The trick in integrating
\int \frac{dy}{y^2 + 1/y^2}

is to write it as

(1/2) \int \left( \frac{1-1/y^2}{(y+1/y)^2 - 2} + \frac{1+1/y^2}{(y-1/y)^2 + 2} \right) dy

This is very easy to integrate.
 

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